British Airways

[FFHKG]

Red faces not red noses at BA

Interesting story in British media today about BA flight from LCY to DUS landing in EDI by mistake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47691478

[rog747]

Originally Posted by FFHKG

Interesting story in British media today about BA flight from LCY to DUS landing in EDI by mistake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47691478

Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up.

Worst we ever did at BMA LHR was MME bags put on the LPL and LPL bags on the MME
2 x DC-9's parked next to each other
I think we did it at JER as well - wrong bags and pax on wrong a/c but don't think pax ever ended up in wrong place

[crewmeal]

I'm surprised the crew didn't know their north' from their 'east' by looking at the compass. I'm even more surprised that air traffic didn't say 'oi you're going the wrong way to DUS'

So will every passenger who boards a BA flight ask if they knoiw where they are going?

[virginblue]

As per the Daily Fail:

At no time has the safety of passengers been compromised. We flew the five passengers on the flight with number BA3271 to Düsseldorf after the involuntary stopover in Edinburgh.'

Not unlikely that non of the five pax had sufficient geography skills to raise an alarm, given the totay lack of orientation of the majority of folks without a sat-nav nowadays.

[mustrum_ridcully]

Originally Posted by rog747

Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up.

Worst we ever did at BMA LHR was MME bags put on the LPL and LPL bags on the MME
2 x DC-9's parked next to each other
I think we did it at JER as well - wrong bags and pax on wrong a/c but don't think pax ever ended up in wrong place

PIC and FO had a flight plan for EDI? So they flew to EDI because that was where they were told to go.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

It would appear that a flight plan was filed and correctly flown from LCY to EDI, the fact that the aircraft was scheduled to fly to Germany is a question for operations and whoever filed the plan. I would imagine the despatcher also has some questions to answer, as every boarding card would have disagreed with the destination, the fuel planned, the alternates etc.

Most of us on here know better than to suggest they got "lost". There was an NWA DC10 filed to, and landed at BRU a few years back, which should have gone to FRA.......

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by rog747

Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up

It won’t be just the passengers who were on the aircraft that landed in EDI that will getting a nice EU 361 payout. The WDL aircraft was planned to operate another 3 sectors for BACF after arriving in DUS. All of which are now delayed over 3hrs meaning that passengers on those flights will also be getting a payout.

BA3272 - Scheduled to arrive LCY at 10:30. Landed 4hrs 40 mins late at 15:10

BA3273 - Scheduled to arrive DUS at 13:15. Now estimated to land 5hrs 55mins late at 19:10

BA3274 to LCY - Flight Cancelled

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[rog747]

Originally Posted by mustrum_ridcully

PIC and FO had a flight plan for EDI? So they flew to EDI because that was where they were told to go.

I never said the FD crew stuffed up - but someone in Ops, FP, and load/traffic control etc obviously did lol

[virginblue]

If the other flights were as busy as the flight in question (five pax!!!) that will be pocket money.

[Pringle_]

Originally Posted by rog747

I never said the FD crew stuffed up - but someone in Ops, FP, and load/traffic control etc obviously did lol

Nothing to do with ATC, they got them to EDI as per the flight plan.

[rog747]

Originally Posted by Pringle_

Nothing to do with ATC, they got them to EDI as per the flight plan.

I never said ATC ! I said traffic (part of ops and/or load control)

[Alteagod]

Like all good news stories I think there is probably more to this story than simply put forward in the press.

[hurumbara]

PLF low

Originally Posted by virginblue

As per the Daily Fail:
Not unlikely that non of the five pax had sufficient geography skills to raise an alarm, given the totay lack of orientation of the majority of folks without a sat-nav nowadays.

So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by hurumbara

So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?

If it's full on the return leg, then probably yes.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by hurumbara

So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?

I believe the reference about the onboard passenger figure mentioned above was taken from a article published online by that Daily Mail. The article has since been edited and the reference to there being 5 passengers onboard has been removed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Scotland.html

This is because there was 61 passengers and 5 crew onboard.

[virginblue]

Indeed. The Daily Mail initially provided a quote mentioning five passengers, but has since removed the figure. I posted that older quote in this thread. Pictures taken onboard the aircraft show a rather busy cabin.

You can still read the older version of the article on this copycat site:

https://www.habaritoday.online/2019/...-to-edinburgh/

[vctenderness]

Got to laugh. Reading this thread and right in the middle is a pop up advert for Specsavers. Maybe someone should have gone to..........

[NWSRG]

How many 77Ws are BA still to recieve? There seems to be an order for 4 in the works with Boeing, but there was also talk of them taking 3 second hand ones to replace the ZZZ airframes...anyone confirm anything?

[spacedog]

BA have 4 on order from Boeing not sure about any second hand airframes though.

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by NWSRG

How many 77Ws are BA still to recieve? There seems to be an order for 4 in the works with Boeing, but there was also talk of them taking 3 second hand ones to replace the ZZZ airframes...anyone confirm anything?

I've read that the B77W order is to replace the ZZZx frames.