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Old 4th Mar 2019, 15:03
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Air Cargo News reporting Cargologicair are to start flights from DSA. This coupled with the continued increase in Nairobi widebody cargo flights will keep a good stream of non EU business at DSA..
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Air Cargo News reporting Cargologicair are to start flights from DSA. This coupled with the continued increase in Nairobi widebody cargo flights will keep a good stream of non EU business at DSA..
Hi do you please have a link ? And any idea when it starts ?.
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 21:58
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Should be in the next week.

One route should be IAH-DSA-FRA-DWC-HKG other should be ORD-DSA-SVO-HKG or some variation.
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 23:04
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Originally Posted by egcntristar
Should be in the next week.

One route should be IAH-DSA-FRA-DWC-HKG other should be ORD-DSA-SVO-HKG or some variation.
Thank you for the info/update.
Their press release says it's to be a Hub.
We might finally have struck lucky if it was at least one based 747. But if reckon on more ..
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 08:17
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Originally Posted by EGPO
Thank you for the info/update.
Their press release says it's to be a Hub.
We might finally have struck lucky if it was at least one based 747. But if reckon on more ..
Lazy / incompetent journalists (delete which not applicable!) often use the word "hub" to describe anything but - often spokes. Great news for DSA though, and right under the noses of the country's principal cargo airport - EMA. One in the eye for MAG!
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Lazy / incompetent journalists (delete which not applicable!) often use the word "hub" to describe anything but - often spokes. Great news for DSA though, and right under the noses of the country's principal cargo airport - EMA. One in the eye for MAG!
Agreed , there was a poster on the EMA forum admitting and also bemoaning how DSA ( how one can say this about an airport having one dual carriageway and a a motorway ( though sadly a section famous for all the wrong reasons ), anyway he said DSA Is better connected ( maybe it is with the proposed rail terminal), I mean the new ' HS2 ' goes right under the Airport terminal at EMA. How they didn't secure a subterranean rail stop is beyond me .

But I digress , anyway the poster having praised DSA he said it had a better catchment than EMA but kept ' Poaching , Eg TUI, I think he meant 'Lomghaul' , from under the airport's nose.

It would be nice for a ' standard carrier ' like a loco to serve DSA, plus a few Niche routes .
And I understand reading the latest ' Routes shop ' DSA is still chasing ABZ and Dubai.
( The latter easily now servable by Wizzair ).

But as they say onwards and upwards , I'm.still hoping we are getting a ' Based aircraft ,that article was more of a press release.'.



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DSA being utilized for an aid flight again.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...-mozambique--2
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Old 24th Mar 2019, 18:56
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Originally Posted by egcntristar
DSA being utilized for an aid flight again.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...-mozambique--2
Interesting day... 747 and Antonov 124 parked next to each other.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 17:53
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Originally Posted by egcntristar
Should be in the next week.

One route should be IAH-DSA-FRA-DWC-HKG other should be ORD-DSA-SVO-HKG or some variation.
Four flights per week according to the below interview. Prestwick has already started at two so no reason to dispute it - just waiting for the start.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...a-brexit-plan/
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 07:45
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I guess the big question now for the future of DSA is whether anyone is going to come in and fill the gap left by Flybe?

This loss will be several hundred thousand passengers per year.

I just can't see who. Easyjet maybe?
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 08:00
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What about Wizz / Wizz UK?
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 08:03
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Originally Posted by toledoashley
What about Wizz / Wizz UK?
Would be a completed untested market for them, picking up the FlyBe routes. Just can't see it myself, but who knows.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 08:16
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Would be a completed untested market for them, picking up the FlyBe routes. Just can't see it myself, but who knows.
Everything except the UK domestic routes could be a possibility for Wizzair UK with their aircraft type. The BHD and JER would be the biggest losses that need a regional aircraft realistically but has potential from still being served by Flybe or the likes of Loganair.

Dublin has proven demand and too could be picked up by Ryanair / Aer Lingus should they have capacity to do so.

That would just leave NQY as an unserved route,.Qith it being available as a PSO route to LBA i can't see there being any need for replacement at DSA.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flybe base be wound up before summer the way they are going. Very sad. Best wishes to all the crew and staff that handle the operation.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:12
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Everything except the UK domestic routes could be a possibility for Wizzair UK
Wizz Air UK seem to be building up their fleet of A321s so far at the expense of one A320 - a lot of seats to fill.

As I have posted elsewhere DSA seems to be the loser in an area where I think there are too many airports. I don't know what the business case was but would have thought it included taking at least some traffic from LBA. It hasn't done that (except for TUI maybe) and competing with LBA and EMA where Jet2 and RYR are entrenched and to a lessor extent HUY it will be difficult.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:48
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Originally Posted by 22/04
Wizz Air UK seem to be building up their fleet of A321s so far at the expense of one A320 - a lot of seats to fill.

As I have posted elsewhere DSA seems to be the loser in an area where I think there are too many airports. I don't know what the business case was but would have thought it included taking at least some traffic from LBA. It hasn't done that (except for TUI maybe) and competing with LBA and EMA where Jet2 and RYR are entrenched and to a lessor extent HUY it will be difficult.
The masterplan would argue that DSA can become the airport with the best infrastructure, and entice passengers and freight from EMA, LBA & even MAN. The commercial development around DSA has grown significantly in the last three years with massive warehousing for the likes of Amazon. To call it a loser does not properly reflect the full growth of the airport and surrounding business in recent years specifically since the opening of direct link roads from the Motorway network.

DSA still lacks a proper UK based Loco, but the deal with Flybe has at least shown a market for the flights they have chosen to operate. Wizz (quietly) remain the largest operator, and hopefully their relationship with Peel/DSA can be constructive in replacing and lost BE routes with a Wizz UK operation. On Peels part they will not be upsetting an incumbent as might be the case if they were to pursue RYR or EZY. Peel wont upset TUI trying too hard for Jet 2 - but if growth can be maintained over the next few years proving the calims of the masterplan, maybe even Jet 2 will see the restrictions of LBA and move some of their capacity to the airport that has room to grow.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:54
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Interested points, but where is that growth coming from?
Unless a replacement is found for FlyBe in the next few weeks, this years passenger numbers will be massively down.

I don't see Wizz picking it up, they have said previously they are interested in operating bucket and spade routes from the UK, and I don't see them going against their business model with routes such as AMS.
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Last time an airline screwed Peel over like this they screwed them back to the tune of 12m...
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 11:51
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Interested points, but where is that growth coming from?
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You would hope TUI are monitoring what JET2 are doing up the road at LBA (and everywhere else) and try to take back some of the market they have lost - to DSA of course as TUI's airport of choice
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Last time an airline screwed Peel over like this they screwed them back to the tune of 12m...
BMI baby at Teesside?
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 19:51
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There are about 30 Wizzair flights at present for Winter 19/20.

It remains to be seen what the Flybe schedule will be, I suspect there will be a daily BHD and then on to AMS/CDG and back with a late return to BHD. Its difficult to see how anything else can be flown thru, maybe the Jersey but thats limited, unless they do something like EDI-AMS-DSA-AMS-EDI.

Lots more to come out of this in my opinion. For sure it seems DSA/CWL don't fit with what Virgin want (to feed their hub at LHR and MAN) but Connect are also 30% owned by Stobart.. DSA themselves won't want to lose these routes and I imagine will do what they can to find a replacement, the loads have been good so clearly the demand is there.

Flybe "management" to blame here. for sure they'll be fine tho - as per usual.
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