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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:34
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Iím not sure SEN was a mistake. Although some routes came and went by all objective measures the sunshine routes and Amsterdam were a roaring success. Loads high and fares generally same or higher than other London airports. This is the ninth summer season, if it was that bad theyíd have been off after two or three.
Makes you wonder why they shut it?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:38
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Why did Easyjet shut 3 UK bases ? Because demand for flights has been cut in half compared to last year
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:42
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Makes you wonder why they shut it?
If youíre being sarcastic, thereís this little illness going round which makes things a little tricky.

If youíre not being sarcastic, I can see the issue in the short-term. All their network from SEN is subject to quarantine or will be soon, once schools are back demand will even more drop off a cliff. I can completely understand why they would want to retreat to their two strongest bases north and south of the river as itís going to be a choppy two or three years. Just as BA have ditched LGW with return date constantly rolling back.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:45
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All their network from SEN is subject to quarantine or will be soon, once schools are back demand will even more drop off a cliff. I can completely understand why they would want to retreat to their two strongest bases north and south of the river as it’s going to be a choppy two or three years. Just as BA have ditched LGW with return date constantly rolling back.
So how different is this to other bases? Why is SEN the only one with no inbound flying?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:03
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
So how different is this to other bases? Why is SEN the only one with no inbound flying?
The answer may be found in something just posted on Twitter by SeanM1997 where it appears that EZY will fly domestic routes + AMS into STN.

Domestic routes from SEN usually struggled.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:44
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
So how different is this to other bases? Why is SEN the only one with no inbound flying?
Iím sure you know the answer to that but I can patronisingly take you through it if you wish?
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:55
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Amsterdam, Geneva, Malaga and Tenerife all showed very high load factors from SEN and according to informed opinion at the airport made good profits. However, once space became available at LTN, LGW and STN I'm afraid SEN was always on a loser. IF SEN survives, and IF demand for air travel returns to the high levels of 2019 sometime this decade then SEN may grow again as the established London airports fill their slots. For now the airport has to cling on.....
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 15:26
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Iím sure you know the answer to that but I can patronisingly take you through it if you wish?
Good reply
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 15:57
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by all objective measures the sunshine routes and Amsterdam were a roaring success.
Amsterdam, Geneva, Malaga and Tenerife all showed very high load factors from SEN and according to informed opinion at the airport made good profits.
Airlines don't normally give up routes that make good profits, especially routes like AMS and GVA which could easily be served inbound from these bases. There's something amiss somewhere.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 16:21
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Post 1182...

"Why did Easyjet shut 3 UK bases? Because demand for flights has been cut in half compared to last year"

Not suggesting just at the 3 UK bases tho of course?

Perhaps more in play than one simplistic sentence.

easyJet internal politics?...Since the absorbing of GO the LTN base wary always of a STN base with large potential in close prox.

SEN too was fully stocked on day one with 3 airframes,all aircrew & a number of routes transferred wholesale from the STN base.

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Old 17th Aug 2020, 16:47
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A relative just had a week in Mallorca (LGW-PMI) with just 14 pax total each way. Is this the current norm? Or exceptionally low?





Originally Posted by southside bobby
Post 1182...

"Why did Easyjet shut 3 UK bases? Because demand for flights has been cut in half compared to last year"

Not suggesting just at the 3 UK bases tho of course?

Perhaps more in play than one simplistic sentence.

easyJet internal politics?...Since the absorbing of GO the LTN base wary always of a STN base with large potential in close prox.

SEN too was fully stocked on day one with 3 airframes,all aircrew & a number of routes transferred wholesale from the STN base.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 17:00
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easyJet internal politics?...Since the absorbing of GO the LTN base wary always of a STN base with large potential in close prox.
I'd be surprised if more than a handful of people in Hangar 89 actually remember Go or anything of its existence. It is far more likely that it's accepted that the battle for market position at STN with Ryanair and Jet2 has been lost, and best to retrench to Luton before the battle there with Wizz is also completely lost.
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 17:33
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History normally dictates when an airline is taken over/absorbed the original base & staff suffer...albeit perhaps in a far shorter time frame of course.

EZY co-habit with RYR/EXS at say MAN...If they accept the battle was lost at STN then perhaps their heart was never in it to start...refer to my original post you quote.

SEN was originally the result of ONE director`s influence (& fine for the good times) who remembered visiting Southend Airport when a boy & was never a strategic board decision but when bad times arrive perhaps was never going to garner too much support...Perhaps))
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 21:01
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Originally Posted by V12
A relative just had a week in Mallorca (LGW-PMI) with just 14 pax total each way. Is this the current norm? Or exceptionally low?
Did they by chance book Easyjet Holidays or were they flight only?
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 07:58
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Easy have never been particularly good at fighting battles. They must protect Gatwick and Manchester at all cost. They have a good position at Bristol. Then Luton where they will be besieged by Wizz - not sure how that will pan out. That would be my strategy.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 08:19
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The thing about London is that its in someways unlike lots of other cities in that you can spend 2+ hrs driving to one of the London airports even though you live in London. So easyJet closing their STN base doesn't mean that their STN passengers will follow them to LGW it just means that they will most likely look for alternatives.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 08:26
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LHR to BA, GTW to U2, STN to FR and LTN to W6? Everybody will have his airport?
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
LHR to BA, GTW to U2, STN to FR and LTN to W6? Everybody will have his airport?
LGW you mean, right?
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 09:37
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna
By contrast yesterday's SEN to Malta FR flight was full. Strange considering Malta has been added to the quarantine list.
No Malta flight from SEN yesterday, least of all with FR? Would be surprising if any of the flights were actually 'full' at this time.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 09:46
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Yep, my mistake. Misreading a post on another site. Schoolboy error.......message now deleted. Apologies.
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