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Old 24th Nov 2018, 07:05
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If you work out where the value is in this for VS, you will also see why there is no value for BA/IAG. Unless someone further like Stobart comes to the party then rumours of a bidding war may well prove groundless.
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 08:47
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Well the share price has rocketed in the last few days so clearly there is some interest?
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 12:38
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
Well the share price has rocketed in the last few days so clearly there is some interest?
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/...GBGBXSET3.html

3 month high was 42, now at 18............
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 21:26
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Media reporting IAG front runners for Flybe
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 21:50
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Yes, that's in the Daily Telegraph business section released at 9pm tonight. Seems Flyb is loved after all.
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 22:14
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I do love that the DT article actually shows a loanair aircraft not a flybe one


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Old 24th Nov 2018, 22:39
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-flybe-rescue/
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 05:37
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Originally Posted by Hudson Bay
Media reporting IAG front runners for Flybe
I really hope they don't get Flybe. Might as well shut them down now if IAG get hold of them.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 07:48
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No mention of Stobart in this - surely they remain the front runner?
IAG would surely be the worst possible outcome- asset strip and closedown a la Dan Air.
VS is hardly cash rich, although Delta as the major shareholder are not adverse to regional feeders.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 07:57
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I've said it from the beginning, IAG are who may likely acquire Flybe. Lot's of shared synergies can be achieved and ultimately turn Flybe around to give the crews and cabin staff employment security. Walsh plays to win, can't see Branson pulling it off.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:00
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
Ive said it from the beginning, IAG are who may likely acquire Flybe. Lot's of shared synergies can be achieved and ult8mately turn Flybe around to give the crews and cabin staff employment security. Walsh plays to win, can't see Branson pulling it off.
Except IAG have shown very little interest in the UK regions. Wheras with virgin i could see them keeping the regional ops going with IAG I could see them shutting them down.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:08
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
Except IAG have shown very little interest in the UK regions. Wheras with virgin i could see them keeping the regional ops going with IAG I could see them shutting them down.
just cant see where it would fit in with VS. They’ve tried and failed with several short haul airlines over the years. The only way they could make it work would be to feed into MAN / LHR / LGW or into KL / AF / DL through AMS and CDG. Can’t see them being interested in point to point from CWL / DSA / EXT for example.

Same goes for IAG.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:19
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So if we cant see vakue from an IAG or VS then Stobart?
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:27
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
No mention of Stobart in this - surely they remain the front runner?
IAG would surely be the worst possible outcome- asset strip and closedown a la Dan Air.
VS is hardly cash rich, although Delta as the major shareholder are not adverse to regional feeders.
A Stobart takeover would be the worst of all outcomes. You would then have 2 clueless management teams trying to run what should be a profitable airline.
They need competent management, clear out the dead wood at the top (including COW and the Chairman) and get some people in who know how to run an airline!
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:29
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I don't really get you lot on here, no airline will ever fit them if you listen to yourselves. Clearly if there's interest then the said airlines must know what they're doing, you lot sound like you'll make the perfect airline CEO by the way you're carrying on.
​​​​​​With regards to IAG, what's so difficult to comprehend about it? The only thing missing from their armoury is a regional airline. Remember it's IAG we're talking about, not BA, IAG as a group may well want a regional airline and why not? They have the finances and power to do what is necessary to turn Flybe into a profitable airline. They could of course start by grounding the Embraer 195s, IAG will have the money to do this and it will instantly put Flybe back in the black. Flybe have a strong business, it just needs the correct guidance and restructuring.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:37
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset
I don't really get you lot on here, no airline will ever fit them if you listen to yourselves. Clearly if there's interest then the said airlines must know what they're doing, you lot sound like you'll make the perfect airline CEO by the way you're carrying on.
​​​​​​With regards to IAG, what's so difficult to comprehend about it? The only thing missing from their armoury is a regional airline. Remember it's IAG we're talking about, not BA, IAG as a group may well want a regional airline and why not? They have the finances and power to do what is necessary to turn Flybe into a profitable airline. They could of course start by grounding the Embraer 195s, IAG will have the money to do this and it will instantly put Flybe back in the black. Flybe have a strong business, it just needs the correct guidance and restructuring.
Very well said
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:40
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Flybe contains large elements of BA Connect that was sold by BA. So what's changed that IAG now need a regional airline again?
Everywhere else, the major airlines are geting out of regional flying and outsourcing it - why would IAG be any different?
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:42
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As said in the rather blue place I repost here

IAG could very easily acquire the brand without any dealings with BA - They are after all a holding company with brands operating in variety of market segments, including two legacies within the same global alliance, a lower cost un aligned TALC and European carrier serving the island of Ireland a transnational flexible fares carrier (with a rather poor reputation) operating from Spain Italy and The Netherlands. Plus a virtual brand in Level with differing service goals in Spain France and Austria
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:44
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I don't know what's so difficult to understand, BA owned BA Connect, not IAG. IAG is not BA, BA is part of IAG, IAG is not an airline so which major airline is getting out of regional flying? IAG wasn't even formed when BA offloaded BA Connect. It's funny that Air France and KLM are still empowering their regional arms, oh and there's Aer Lingus with Stobart too. Sorry but your theories hold no water whatsoever.
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Old 25th Nov 2018, 08:51
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IAG outsources it's rgional flying - Aer Lingus don't own Stobart, Iberia don't own Air Nostrum, if IAG need a regional airline why Flybe?
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