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Slight difference is that INV has 4 trains a day and they are more than likely to go tech due to landslides etc.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal.
Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal.
Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch.
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So what we have with the transfer of the route to Heathrow is:
* The existing PSO subsidy was about to run out and has been renewed. That's the government involvement explained.
* Heathrow offers £15 / pax discount on handling charges for new UK routes. That's Heathrow's involvement explained.
* Flybe was able to obtain remedy slots at LHR from the IAG/bmi takeover. That's the airline's involvement explained.
I really can't see anything more substantive for the airline than this - other than that it might be able to sell its existing slots at LGW.
* The existing PSO subsidy was about to run out and has been renewed. That's the government involvement explained.
* Heathrow offers £15 / pax discount on handling charges for new UK routes. That's Heathrow's involvement explained.
* Flybe was able to obtain remedy slots at LHR from the IAG/bmi takeover. That's the airline's involvement explained.
I really can't see anything more substantive for the airline than this - other than that it might be able to sell its existing slots at LGW.
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Originally Posted by tescoapp
Slight difference is that INV has 4 trains a day and they are more than likely to go tech due to landslides etc.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal.
Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch.
Anyone think any airline is going to touch the with TUPE etc then they are sadly mistaken. Government sub not going to happen either due to being highly illegal.
Honestly flybe's management are utter heads up their own arse by buying the setup and AoC your taking on all the redundancy payments and more importantly all the baggage and useless management. Operating crew and gingers no an issue with the rest of the dead wood nobody will touch.
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i was born north of Dundee and connections to London other than Air are utterly pants. Sleeper is a nice option though which i do pay the extra for on occasion.
Virgin trains I might understand an interest in the operation.... but then again they have similar issues as flybe….
Atlantic more than likely operates with a couple of ops controllers one tech guy 24H to take on the flybe fleet would blow the ops model out the water. Can't see it myself...
Virgin trains I might understand an interest in the operation.... but then again they have similar issues as flybe….
Atlantic more than likely operates with a couple of ops controllers one tech guy 24H to take on the flybe fleet would blow the ops model out the water. Can't see it myself...
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So is it Virgin Purple? Tiny Virgin ? Fly Virgin? Virgin BE? Flyrgin UK? I think they would only be interested in feeding into there own network. Would they be arsed with the trans UK routes???
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no they wouldn't and nobody else would either.
Not that would effect the Viet taff or scots nats types opinions who would more than likely demand the service provision even though they would only use it twice a year and pay the sub cost ticket price and botch that its to expensive.
Not that would effect the Viet taff or scots nats types opinions who would more than likely demand the service provision even though they would only use it twice a year and pay the sub cost ticket price and botch that its to expensive.
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Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
Originally Posted by B Fraser
Meanwhile over at a well run airline, the CEO states publicly that Brexit has not made any difference to his business. Profits are up 15.6%. I wonder what COW knows that he doesn't ?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...demise-rivals/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...demise-rivals/
I have rarely booked anything beyond Feb-Mar at this time of year, many people will be the same. 2 weeks post Christmas may be a better indication as many book holidays or summer flights between Christmas and New Year.
Originally Posted by Brigantee
I did predict that the goverment would come to flybe,s aid and was scoffed at by certain individuals.....
Crisis now over i reckon
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Originally Posted by tescoapp
government can't bail out any company legally...…………………. even if its a pretend government such as the Welsh or scot assembly.
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- Virgin Little Red operated Airbus on the domestic routes which were too big for what they needed. Flybe are already operating LHR-EDI & ABZ which could be strengthened for much needed connections that VS need through LHR, along with the recently announced NQY flights. Operated on a much more efficient aircraft to the demand that VS has.
- Secondly BE has a big presence at MAN as does VS, which could grow even further.
- It may also see a stronger return of BE in LGW feeding VS flights from there, and also flights from GLA which BE already codeshare on.
- Add into the mix DL's connections as well from various airports.
Throw into the mix a possible additional feed for KL/AF. BE already have strong links with AF codeshares through CDG and operate into AMS which would provide additional slots to feed KL. This could free up KL Cityhopper aircraft for new routes throughout Europe.
As a group project I see this as a positive for all carriers involved if they can get the route network and feed right.
What's left is the bases that provide little addition to the group of Airlines which could see cuts. BHX has it's own BE fortress if they wanted to keep that running.
- Secondly BE has a big presence at MAN as does VS, which could grow even further.
- It may also see a stronger return of BE in LGW feeding VS flights from there, and also flights from GLA which BE already codeshare on.
- Add into the mix DL's connections as well from various airports.
Throw into the mix a possible additional feed for KL/AF. BE already have strong links with AF codeshares through CDG and operate into AMS which would provide additional slots to feed KL. This could free up KL Cityhopper aircraft for new routes throughout Europe.
As a group project I see this as a positive for all carriers involved if they can get the route network and feed right.
What's left is the bases that provide little addition to the group of Airlines which could see cuts. BHX has it's own BE fortress if they wanted to keep that running.
