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Old 26th Feb 2020, 13:35
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
To be fair if Delta are happy to invest more in Flybe/Virgin Connect, what on earth is going on?
Funding on the cheap via central government?
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 17:33
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Originally Posted by VHF4 View Post
Indeed , why plough your own money into a failing basket case airline when you can persuade the government to put the tax payers dosh in ?
People will always need baskets
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 19:18
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Originally Posted by VHF4 View Post
Seeing something from a different perspective to your own hardly constitutes trolling.
Nonetheless you are a Troll.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 19:32
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Originally Posted by VHF4 View Post
In your humble opinion of course .....
Please can we move on. If someone is a troll in your opinion ignore them or report the post.

If there are to be tax changes to APD I guess weíll find out on March 11th at the budget but given rumours of changes to fuel duty on environmental grounds I donít see how they could increase fuel duty on cars but encourage flying.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 00:49
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Oh do shut up
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 08:52
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Anyone know when the funding decision is due?

All this uncertainty coupled with this pandemic nonsense has sent bookings off a cliff.

BHX for some reason seems the worst hit .
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 09:40
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According to the press reports earlier this month, they had enough cash until the end of the month.
So I would expect either revised press reports this weekend or funding
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 11:29
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Originally Posted by fernlee View Post
Anyone know when the funding decision is due?

All this uncertainty coupled with this pandemic nonsense has sent bookings off a cliff.

BHX for some reason seems the worst hit .
This pandemic nonsense, and I fully agree, it is largely nonsense, will effect all airlines. I don't know how you can affirm that BHX has been effected more than other airports, unless you have access to sensitive information that ought not be on these pages. i would suggest that if it is true, it's probably because BHX, being a larger base, has more (numerically) to lose.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 11:31
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Originally Posted by lfc84 View Post
According to the press reports earlier this month, they had enough cash until the end of the month.
So I would expect either revised press reports this weekend or funding
There is no need to add taxes to aviation to suppress demand, coronavirus is doing a good job of that already. Indeed adding taxes that may put airlines out of business would be very foolish politically even if it would look good on environmental grounds.

I am acting, I suspect, like other passengers. I am waiting to book a ticket to see whether they will be around after the end of the month.

There is no need for the partners to put money into flybe to support routes that they have no interest in. They have another airline that will take over the routes that they are actually interested in.

If they have enough cash to keep going until then, you can see budget day being the crunch date. Flybe can blame the decision to shut up shop on the government if they fail to make the changes to APD.

I have no inside knowledge in this instance, just my analysis. I, do of course, hope I am wrong because of all those potentially affected.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 11:51
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Originally Posted by VHF4 View Post
All this about flybe running out of cash is nonsense designed to put pressure on the government, They have billionaire owners letís not forget that .
60 posts, over 50 negative comments on BE - is there really that much to say?
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 13:04
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I'm wondering if VHF4 is the person referred to in a recent "Dear Team" briefing?
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 13:35
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
This pandemic nonsense, and I fully agree, it is largely nonsense, will effect all airlines. I don't know how you can affirm that BHX has been effected more than other airports, unless you have access to sensitive information that ought not be on these pages. i would suggest that if it is true, it's probably because BHX, being a larger base, has more (numerically) to lose.

I think it’s fairly common knowledge bookings are suffering which is why a end to uncertainty is needed either the owners put the money in or the government does , Who doesn’t really matter , time is of the essence here .

Hopefully this latest health scare will fizzle out shortly i’m sure it’s being massively overhyped

Hong king flu ,asian flu ,bird flu.....it’s nothing new
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 16:15
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Originally Posted by VHF4 View Post
All this about flybe running out of cash is nonsense designed to put pressure on the government, They have billionaire owners let’s not forget that .

That is something a lot of people are banking on , As i see the situation at the end of the day it’s not as if the company has no funds and is dependent on government money to survive, it might be nice to get a loan at a reasonable interest rate but it’s not critical to survival .

However it needs sorting ASAP .
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 16:52
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
60 posts, over 50 negative comments on BE - is there really that much to say?
As VHF4 does nothing for this thread, maybe someone can prevent him from posting here or ban him from this Flybe topic?

We want productive discussion, not speculative, fake new bile from this clown.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 16:53
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Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post
As VHF4 does nothing for this thread, maybe someone can prevent him from posting here or ban him from this Flybe topic?

We want productive discussion, not speculative, fake new bile from this close.
use you ignore list if theres someone you dont want to "see"
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 16:55
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For crying out loud guys, you have an ignore function. I'm starting to believe you actually want him to post because you like complaining about it
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 17:20
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Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post
As VHF4 does nothing for this thread, maybe someone can prevent him from posting here or ban him from this Flybe topic?

We want productive discussion, not speculative, fake new bile from this clown.

I think the problem is itís a rumour network hence itís full of rumours and what often turns out to be fake news 😀
Trick is to sort the wheat from the chaff , Not always easy !
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 18:47
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Originally Posted by fernlee View Post
I think the problem is itís a rumour network hence itís full of rumours and what often turns out to be fake news 😀
Trick is to sort the wheat from the chaff , Not always easy !
Rumours are one thing, making posts up from someone's own twisted mind are another.

Discussion is always welcome on the site, but most of what this person is posting isn't even backed up with common sense or reliable reference. 90% is negative Flybe. If they're so anti-Flybe they should just log off, or risk a ban.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 19:05
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It's so, so simple. IGNORE function.
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 19:32
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Come on chaps, put your handbags down now. As reversethrustset said, if you don't like a certain poster then just ignore them.

Back onto topic. It's a crucial time for flybe!

I was never convinced of connects intentions when I was there. I remember reading that a big part of the plan was as a feeder for virgin and possibly other airlines too like AF/KLM and Delta. At the time when connect was formed and they took ownership of flybe the 3rd runway was well on the cards at LHR. Virgin was arguing the case that slot allocations (once the 3rd runway was completed) would have been unfairly in favour of BA. They now have a regional ability and demanded more slots at LHR when the time came.

Well whatever there intent is with flybe, as of today that 3rd runway looks a lot less likely to happen.

I wonder if this will change Virgins view on flybe?
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