Flybe-9

[chaps1954]

They were at one point just going to cut the loses by returning them and paying the penalty but decided it was better to keep them for a while and try to at least break even with them

[VickersVicount]

some sort of landing emergency on BE SOU-GLA this evening, no more details of actual incident

[Reversethrustset]

Originally Posted by virginblue

Sure, but if they were in a position to return them, they were also in a position to keep them on renegotiated, better terms.

Why would they want to do that? Even with better terms the operating costs just to keep it in the air are more than double the eye watering lease cost. They don't want them, they want shot of them, it's as simple as that. If you knew the figures you'd understand why.

[Brigantee]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

some sort of landing emergency on BE SOU-GLA this evening, no more details of actual incident

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/g...crews-17169939


It happens that often i’m surprised it even makes the papers.....I guess if one was a nervous flyer this is the type to avoid at all costs and take the easyjet option

[rog747]

Have BE dumped SOU-VRN next Summer?

Inghams Holidays shows they fly on WEDS and SATS for their package holidays to Lake Garda
Flt nos. BE1223/1224 but are these charters then?

[euromanxdude]

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Looks like scheduled to me. Charter flight numbers have been traditionally using 4 digit numbers beginning with 8 or 9 like 8231 or 9345.

Know in past travel group/ agent buys a block number of seats and Flybe sells remaining seats on website- if I’m making sense

[rog747]

Originally Posted by euromanxdude

Looks like scheduled to me. Charter flight numbers have been traditionally using 4 digit numbers beginning with 8 or 9 like 8231 or 9345.

Know in past travel group/ agent buys a block number of seats and Flybe sells remaining seats on website- if I’m making sense

Yes thanks indeed you do, Inghams and TUI certainly do that - just seen on SOU page that Summer 2020 is not on sale yet.....

[stewyb]

They really are a shower. The public told S20 flights would be released in October via 2 emails (assume they had subscribed to the BE newsletter), now only to be informed that it will be some time in November. Lots of punters already stating they cannot wait any longer and have booked via other airlines. VS have definately got a job on their hands to turn this lot around!!

[BA318]

Originally Posted by stewyb

They really are a shower. The public told S20 flights would be released in October via 2 emails (assume they had subscribed to the BE newsletter), now only to be informed that it will be some time in November. Lots of punters already stating they cannot wait any longer and have booked via other airlines. VS have definately got a job on their hands to turn this lot around!!

the crowd who book 10 months in advance are not the market that Flybe need to go after. They need the business travellers who typically book late.

Better to get the timetable right than mess around with it at a later stage and cause further inconvenience.

[TartinTon]

Originally Posted by BA318

the crowd who book 10 months in advance are not the market that Flybe need to go after. They need the business travellers who typically book late.

Better to get the timetable right than mess around with it at a later stage and cause further inconvenience.

They are going to have to get their act together if they are going to start feeding longhaul services. These will be booking 10+ months in advance.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by TartinTon

They are going to have to get their act together if they are going to start feeding longhaul services. These will be booking 10+ months in advance.

Sure, some leisure travelers will book 10 months in advance, business passengers more like 10 weeks or less. I suppose it all depends which market they are targeting. One thing is for sure, there's nothing to be gained by rushing a schedule to market and getting it wrong, thus losing more money, when the objective is to turn the business around.

[boredintheairport]

Originally Posted by TartinTon

They are going to have to get their act together if they are going to start feeding longhaul services. These will be booking 10+ months in advance.

The proportion of travellers who book 10+ months in advance is surely quite low and their contribution to total revenue lower still. I'm sure they have far, far more data than publicly available and if they were worried about losing the bookings they would have shoved out a schedule.

They can also be reaccommodated quietly and without penalty this far out. If you make a schedule that doesn't work and needs to be adjusted frequently at the last minute due to ambitious turn around times or utilisation then you may end up paying expensive compensation due under EC/261.

[RogueOne]

Summer 2020 is out.

https://www.flybe.com/media/news/1911/1113

Patience is a virtue.

[whitelighter]

What are stobart getting?

a new Southend carrier appears to be the answer
a d a home for some of their E190s

[Bournemouthair]

South Today just mwntioned about the cuts of flybe to spanish islands etc

[NorthEasterner]

I suppose the cuts to Spain was expected, considering they're focussing on short haul UK domestic and intermediate European continent such as channel Islands, Netherlands, France etc.

[gkmeech]

Schedule

My answer from a tweet to SOU Management ‘Hi Graham, Flybe is reducing services, which is regrettable. However, this reinforces the case for investment in our runway to ensure we can offer more choice for passengers. We’re having discussions with other airlines to backfill routes and growth plans continue unaffected. FP

[LBIA]

Flybe have just released full details of all routes that have been dropped for summer 2020.

https://flybe.custhelp.com/app/answe...l/a_id/1718/kw

The following routes do not feature in our 2020 Summer programme which starts on 29th March 2020:

Discontinued Routes:

• Aberdeen to Newquay
• Malaga to Doncaster Sheffield
• Malaga to Exeter
• Malaga to Norwich
• Malaga to Southampton
• Alicante to Doncaster Sheffield
• Alicante to Exeter
• Alicante to Norwich
• Alicante to Southampton
• Amsterdam to Doncaster Sheffield
• Belfast City to Doncaster Sheffield
• Birmingham to Bastia
• Birmingham to Biarritz
• Birmingham to Hannover
• Birmingham to Hamburg
• Bastia to Southampton
• Biarritz to Southampton
• Bordeaux to Southampton
• Paris CDG to Doncaster Sheffield
• Cardiff to Faro
• Cardiff to Rome
• Cardiff to Glasgow Intl.
• Cardiff to Munich
• Cardiff to Milan Malpensa
• Cardiff to Venice
• Cardiff to Verona
• Doncaster Sheffield to Dublin
• Doncaster Sheffield to Faro
• Doncaster Sheffield to Jersey
• Doncaster Sheffield to Newquay
• Doncaster Sheffield to Palma Mallorca
• Dusseldorf to Leeds Bradford
• Dusseldorf to London City
• Dusseldorf to Southampton
• Edinburgh to East Midlands
• East Midlands to Glasgow Intl.
• East Midlands to Jersey
• Exeter to Faro
• Exeter to Norwich
• Exeter to Palma Mallorca
• Exeter to Rennes
• Faro to Southampton
• Glasgow Intl. to Manchester
• Glasgow Intl. to Newquay
• Isle of Man to London Heathrow
• London City to Rennes
• Liverpool to Newquay
• La Rochelle to Manchester
• Manchester to Milan Malpensa
• Manchester to Nantest
• Manchester to Rennes
• Manchester to Toulouse
• Newcastle to Newquay
• Nantes to Southampton
• Palma Mallorca to Southampton

[TartinTon]

Interesting list...a lot of the French regional routes were gap-fillers for school holiday peak cutbacks.

[Mr A Tis]

Not sure I Understand the MAN TLS being dropped, always appeared full to me - often with Airbus folk. To start MAN / Stuttgart up instead on the face of it appears a bit random (?) One assumes they know what they are doing :-)