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The proposed contract is a completely different beast to that which Cobham currently have. From a quick look at the history and the shifting alliances of participants, I would say that the prospect of finding it who does what from where is quite a distant one...
However, MME still has the same advantages that led to Cobham chosing it in the first, so might be attractive to whoever wins.
However, MME still has the same advantages that led to Cobham chosing it in the first, so might be attractive to whoever wins.
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'Brian Clough International' would be good 
Joking aside, they would still need a geographical name as in the case of John Lennon and George Best airports. 'Teesside' didn't do them a great deal of harm for the many years it was called that, although the name 'Middlesbrough' might be better known internationally
Joking aside, they would still need a geographical name as in the case of John Lennon and George Best airports. 'Teesside' didn't do them a great deal of harm for the many years it was called that, although the name 'Middlesbrough' might be better known internationally
Are TUI going to come back after being given the elbow not so many moons ago? They helped to give Teesside it's core bucket and spade business, I believe schedule flights will be harder to find in the short term. Heathrow would seem to be a long way off at returning, Dublin and Brussels might work, however a low cost airline is the only solution as far as I can see.
We are going round in circles again, but the mayor sold the deal on connecting Teesside businesses to the world, not cheap holidays for voters.=left
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So what would a loco be the solution to?
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So what would a loco be the solution to?
They mayor might have sold it as connecting Teesside businesses to the world but voters probably went to the ballot box thinking of cheap holidays.
As a Londoner who is a regular visitor to Durham, on every trip these days I lament the loss of the LHR-MME service on British Midland Airways (not the confused mess bmi became). It would be amazing if it came back but somehow I doubt BA would ever even consider it but maybe it might be tested out be the new incarnation of FlyBe which seems to be becoming know ans Virgin Connect. Hopefully a couple of services a day on a DH8 would be sustainable and at least as profitable as their current LHR-EDI and LHR-ABZ operations where they are using a DH8 up against BA A320s.=left
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Here's hoping.
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Here's hoping.
Any remedy slots left for this? Not convinced that all 14 are being used. Might have been a better idea than duplicating existing routes......What about a PSO arrangement?
PS how to get rid of all the extra bits in the quoted text. Doesn't appear till the post is saved, and unable to edit out.
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Originally Posted by Fairdealfrank
Me too, also used the British Midland service a few times visiting friends, bloody convenient!
Any remedy slots left for this? Not convinced that all 14 are being used. Might have been a better idea than duplicating existing routes......What about a PSO arrangement?
In the new world FlyBe/Virgin Connect are introducing one rotation LHR-GCI in the late afternoon each day but that's all that has happened so far and it's using a VS slot that had been leased to Cobalt - timings are exactly what the Cobalt LCA service was using.
I doubt MME would qualify for a PSO and again AFAIK they only relate to some of the Scottish Islands with nothing on the mainland and given the service from Darlington to KGX there would never be an argument.
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Does anyone have a load factor for Flybe's EDI-LHR? Just with the prospect of common ownership between us all I suspect there may just be enough empty seats to justify it becoming an EDI-MME-LHR...perhaps with an upgrade to E175? Wild speculation of course but probably the most plausible of all the LHR theories, which before now were completely pointless.
In other route news KLM are dropping the afternoon flight during July/August again...
In other route news KLM are dropping the afternoon flight during July/August again...
Does anyone have a load factor for Flybe's EDI-LHR? Just with the prospect of common ownership between us all I suspect there may just be enough empty seats to justify it becoming an EDI-MME-LHR...perhaps with an upgrade to E175? Wild speculation of course but probably the most plausible of all the LHR theories, which before now were completely pointless
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Originally Posted by Skyflier
There aren't any remedy slots because BD had ceased to operate the route before the sale to BA and for that matter there weren't any for GLA for the same reason. Remedy slots were there for EDI, ABZ and MAN but AFAIK they were all used on EDI and ABZ.
In the new world FlyBe/Virgin Connect are introducing one rotation LHR-GCI in the late afternoon each day but that's all that has happened so far and it's using a VS slot that had been leased to Cobalt - timings are exactly what the Cobalt LCA service was using.
I doubt MME would qualify for a PSO and again AFAIK they only relate to some of the Scottish Islands with nothing on the mainland and given the service from Darlington to KGX there would never be an argument.
In the new world FlyBe/Virgin Connect are introducing one rotation LHR-GCI in the late afternoon each day but that's all that has happened so far and it's using a VS slot that had been leased to Cobalt - timings are exactly what the Cobalt LCA service was using.
I doubt MME would qualify for a PSO and again AFAIK they only relate to some of the Scottish Islands with nothing on the mainland and given the service from Darlington to KGX there would never be an argument.
Fair point about KGX but consideration has to be given to connecting pax and those pax headed to points in the south other than London city centre.
Does anyone have a load factor for Flybe's EDI-LHR? Just with the prospect of common ownership between us all I suspect there may just be enough empty seats to justify it becoming an EDI-MME-LHR...perhaps with an upgrade to E175? Wild speculation of course but probably the most plausible of all the LHR theories, which before now were completely pointless.
Would this meet the remedy slots criteria?
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Smooth Radio reporting that DTV is best airport in the country for delays! I laughed at first cynically thinking 'there's no flights to be delayed' then I remembered about Eastern's performance and decided it was quite the achievement!
Who knows! Shouldn't do because it's bringing another non-BA airport on-stream
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It seems a perfectly reasonable suggestion to me but no doubt it would be met with more red tape and bureaucracy than would be worth the hassle
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Anyone know if Middlesbrough hosting Radio 1s Big Weekend is likely to generate any extra traffic? Some helicopters and a couple of private jets perhaps?
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January CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 9,803 - down 7% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,533 - down 44%
Amsterdam: 8,221 - up 8%
Amsterdam shows year-on-year growth for the 16th month in succession and it was the best January on the MME-AMS route since 2008. Aberdeen down again due to the extra Loganair flights last year but was up slightly on January 2017.
Rolling 12 month passengers: 138,851
Terminal passengers: 9,803 - down 7% v prior year
Aberdeen: 1,533 - down 44%
Amsterdam: 8,221 - up 8%
Amsterdam shows year-on-year growth for the 16th month in succession and it was the best January on the MME-AMS route since 2008. Aberdeen down again due to the extra Loganair flights last year but was up slightly on January 2017.
Rolling 12 month passengers: 138,851
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Should come as no surprise to anybody that Stobart are the new operators (and part owners) - here's hoping they can hit the ground running by bringing in new business links. It's not going to be easy of course... otherwise it would have all happened in the past few years. Can't help but wonder whether a link to Southend would appease those wanting a link to London, only an hour by train to the city, similar timing to Heathrow and Gatwick. Seems a logical step now really.
Stobart are the new operators (and part owners)
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Does the airport need money spent on its infrastructure? Stobart will be more than happy if 75% of the cost is met by the public purse - not least because the main contractor for major upgrades is likely to be part of the Stobart Group.
