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Has anyone got any news on the Cityjet Superjets operations
was planning a trip to BHX between Xmas and New Year to grab couple of shots of one
before they go in march
when best day and times operate please
thanks
mark
was planning a trip to BHX between Xmas and New Year to grab couple of shots of one
before they go in march
when best day and times operate please
thanks
mark
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Oh I had no idea the UK QR loads were as poor as they are across the board. Why all the upgauging then? We were once told it was all about J class loads and cargo.
I presume LHR does well though
I presume LHR does well though
The thing is both EDI and MAN have had impressive increases in Oct and November figures compared to last year which was due to the restrictions that Saudi and UAE placed on
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In my opinion the Qatar decision is based on the political situation in the ME and having to utilize shiny new planes elsewhere that might have on the DXB-DOH(10 daily) or Jeddah/Riyadh - okay a slight exaggeration as not many if any 359's would have been allocated to these routes but they did have some widedodies plying these route and it was quite possible that a couple of 359's would have been taken up on them.
None of us know the yields from any of their routes but based on industry norms, not may mid to long-haul operators increase routes based on 55-65% load factors.
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I think he was just referring to Manchester having had increases of 13% in October and 21% in November, in comparison with the same months in 2017, on the Doha route - which is reasonable.
Thanks Scottie, that is exactly what I meant. Would have replied earlier but just finished a very busy day at work and I`m knackered
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Hope every one has a wonderfull Christmas
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IndiGo to serve BHX ?
IndiGo to start Delhi-Istanbul daily flights from April; Birmingham and Moscow on the cards ..
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Looks like they are going to try to do something similar to the Air Blu fiasco one stop narrow body flexible fares and limited connectivity - Competing with a much larger incumbent flying larger and more frequently directly to their Sub continent Hub with extensive regional connections beyond.
Oh and their preferred UK Airport is already known and it’s on the Surrey and Sussex fringes and subject to gaining sufficient and useful slots.
I think the sales team at Birmingham would be better placed in pressuring Air India into restoring Delhi to daily nonstop at the earliest opportunity imho.
They could also do well in targeting further sandpit operators specifically either or both of Oman or, Gulf Air - they are about to recommence some long haul expansion I believe - One to win over Manchester imho.
There are still issues at a political level in India that kibosh meaningful international expansion from their flexible fares and low cost business model carriers beyond the opensky’s migrant worker sand pit routes.
This is combined with antiquated seating capacity limits instilled in many of their bilateral agreements rather the frequency limits.
BTW this has a nasty habit of back fireing because each time an Indian carrier ups their seating offerings into the UAE , Emirates matches it pulling even MORE of the valuable long haul market via their desert hub !
Final thing UK -India has a high level of imports in the belly of those Widebodies that simply can’t be carried in the 321LR or 738 maxes.
I think those are better used and were designed for use within inter Asia and US transcontinental operations and as a sideline shorter EU/UK - Eastern Seaboard routes. They really aren’t suited to Sub continent- Western Europe imho , though will reduce costs across the northern Indian Ocean routes without doubt.
Oh and their preferred UK Airport is already known and it’s on the Surrey and Sussex fringes and subject to gaining sufficient and useful slots.
I think the sales team at Birmingham would be better placed in pressuring Air India into restoring Delhi to daily nonstop at the earliest opportunity imho.
They could also do well in targeting further sandpit operators specifically either or both of Oman or, Gulf Air - they are about to recommence some long haul expansion I believe - One to win over Manchester imho.
There are still issues at a political level in India that kibosh meaningful international expansion from their flexible fares and low cost business model carriers beyond the opensky’s migrant worker sand pit routes.
This is combined with antiquated seating capacity limits instilled in many of their bilateral agreements rather the frequency limits.
BTW this has a nasty habit of back fireing because each time an Indian carrier ups their seating offerings into the UAE , Emirates matches it pulling even MORE of the valuable long haul market via their desert hub !
Final thing UK -India has a high level of imports in the belly of those Widebodies that simply can’t be carried in the 321LR or 738 maxes.
I think those are better used and were designed for use within inter Asia and US transcontinental operations and as a sideline shorter EU/UK - Eastern Seaboard routes. They really aren’t suited to Sub continent- Western Europe imho , though will reduce costs across the northern Indian Ocean routes without doubt.
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Great post Rutnan16 and couldn't agree more re. AI. Get DEL back to daily rather than an operator with no long haul experience and who would probably up sticks to LGW as soon as the slots are available...... Gulf Air are rumoured to be looking at long haul expansion as are Saudi. Both have potential at BHX (indeed Gulf Air very nearly arrived at BHX in the form of Gulf Traveller using 767''s to AUH but pulled out at last minute). Not so sure about Oman, they have struggled with MAN loads although they are improving now.
Off the wall, I wonder if Scoot would work to SIN? Surely enough leisure traffic to go round despite SQ ops at LHR and MAN?
Off the wall, I wonder if Scoot would work to SIN? Surely enough leisure traffic to go round despite SQ ops at LHR and MAN?
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Great post Rutnan16 and couldn't agree more re. AI. Get DEL back to daily rather than an operator with no long haul experience and who would probably up sticks to LGW as soon as the slots are available...... Gulf Air are rumoured to be looking at long haul expansion as are Saudi. Both have potential at BHX (indeed Gulf Air very nearly arrived at BHX in the form of Gulf Traveller using 767''s to AUH but pulled out at last minute). Not so sure about Oman, they have struggled with MAN loads although they are improving now.
Off the wall, I wonder if Scoot would work to SIN? Surely enough leisure traffic to go round despite SQ ops at LHR and MAN?
Off the wall, I wonder if Scoot would work to SIN? Surely enough leisure traffic to go round despite SQ ops at LHR and MAN?
Anyway tomorrow sees a new broom and will he (Nick Barton) sweep clean or just tow the shareholders line more than ever. The good news is at least someone is in the hot-seat and what a hot-seat it is - MAEL gone, Flybe up for sale let alone the B word. There should be some interesting staff meetings in the next few days and I am sure his feet will not touch the ground this month.
Indigo at first glance don't offer much if it is a one-stop Delhi where if any destination is needed it would be Mumbai. I am also not so sure any other Gulf flights are required and as long as Qatar stay, I am sure restoring the early morning Emirates will be a priority although 2 x 615 seat A380's seem to fit perfectly at the moment.
The real tough one is convincing any airline to go west especially a summer Toronto which is inexplicable and the old boring argument that it is a dying market s in my opinion a far too simplistic excuse or due the offering to the north and south of BHX. It is a tough ask to persuade an airline to operate BHX-YYZ but with the new, more efficient narrow-bodies it should be possible, difficult, but possible.
In other news, BHX seems to have come off fairly reasonably with the latest TUI changes from one of BHX's star airlines although the loss of Madeira is a shocker and as it was a Monday flight, tomorrow sees as many long-haul as short-haul flights (2 each), as it has not been replaced. Note, it has gone permanently leaving a gap in summer 2019 as well but still get an extra based aircraft but some further changes .
In keeping with past years Agadir is chopped before it starts this summer although it is bookable in winter 2019/20. The Thursday slot is replaced by Fridays Antalya which I think was Freedbird. The summer 2019 Monday Enfidha which is new now operates back into EMA so out for the day but overall still a stunning schedule. There are also some cuts in the next few weeks until February half-term which were late but understandable.
The aircraft CRJ-1000 (CRX's) are bountiful from tomorrow with Brussels Airlines now using these and SAS Copenhagen on the evening flight.
Qatar have moved the Friday flight from morning to afternoon for summer which I presume is for connection purpose.
Wizz Poznan finished Saturday and the route is now not served and no sign of the Harps taking this one but at least Cluj is up and running.
Flybe start their reduced schedule tomorrow but still a creditable 48 flights and no doubt Mr Barton will be keeping a close eye on what happens with them.
In really will be after the Lord Mayors show for the next 5 weeks after a fantastic holiday period with TUI 789's and the 744 on the Friday Cancun, extra based Ryanair, Newquay and Nantes operating for Flybe plus masses of extra Jet2 and even Thomas Cook joined the party. However most have now ended although FR are still 4 based tomorrow but Thomas Cook has just one flight outbound.
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In keeping with past years Agadir is chopped before it starts this summer
Anyway tomorrowsees a new broom and will he (Nick Barton) sweep clean or just tow the shareholders line more than ever.
The real tough one is convincing any airline to go west especially a summer Toronto which is inexplicable
The fly in the ointment for 2019 for BHX (as many other airports in the UK) is BE. A case of waiting and seeing but I fear for sure changes are ahead that will have a big effect on BHX.
Frankly I'm as likely to believe an aviation story emanating from The Times of India as I would a forecast of a heat wave or arctic cold spell from the Daily Express!!
Sadly I fear the latter, although will be delighted to be proved wrong. Things would be quite different at BHX if it was owned and managed by a private company instead of county councils - not all would be positive of course but I think it would be punching at as opposed to below its weight.
Personally I would be inclined to believe any Times of India story over any of the vile bile spouted out by the Express!!
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Interesting article in TTG Online about Jet2 and the delivery of its 100th aircraft.
It states no planned new routes for 2020 and if they do, it will be one or two only. It also firmly states no new bases and they want to make sure existing bases grow. the 100th aircraft will be used to help bolster frequencies on existing routes.
The good news is that it specifically states BHX (and STN!) as their fastest growing bases and these are central to any future growth.
They also say they have a lot of cash in the bank and are not adversely worried by Brexit.
After such a difficult couple of years at BHX with airlines disappearing at a rate of knots (and with the future of BE still very much 'up in the air' pardon the pun) it is reassuring to know that Jet2 are committed to BHX and although cautious have obviously long term plans for sustainable growth of the base. Whilst we may not see new routes, I think they will continue to bring in more pax year on year as they grow frequencies on existing ones, which actually number of 40 this summer, not to be sniffed at!.
If only BHX could attract a carrier that could fill some of the 'city break' gaps that have left a big hole in its schedules, that would be just great!
It states no planned new routes for 2020 and if they do, it will be one or two only. It also firmly states no new bases and they want to make sure existing bases grow. the 100th aircraft will be used to help bolster frequencies on existing routes.
The good news is that it specifically states BHX (and STN!) as their fastest growing bases and these are central to any future growth.
They also say they have a lot of cash in the bank and are not adversely worried by Brexit.
After such a difficult couple of years at BHX with airlines disappearing at a rate of knots (and with the future of BE still very much 'up in the air' pardon the pun) it is reassuring to know that Jet2 are committed to BHX and although cautious have obviously long term plans for sustainable growth of the base. Whilst we may not see new routes, I think they will continue to bring in more pax year on year as they grow frequencies on existing ones, which actually number of 40 this summer, not to be sniffed at!.
If only BHX could attract a carrier that could fill some of the 'city break' gaps that have left a big hole in its schedules, that would be just great!