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Packer27L, quoting on only a part of gy11's post and calling him a moron is uncalled for. As always with these issues, we are not in the loop regarding the decision making process by all concerned at the time. However, the question of why not divert to an airport with 2 runways is perhaps a valid question. Obviously the aircraft did not need to land ASAP or it wouldn't have held (4 holds I believe) prior to landing at BHX.
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The question I was raising was whether the choice of diversion field was based purely on commercial considerations relating to that airlines operations with no "higher authority" considering the possible knock on effects on other airlines and their passengers.
The question I was raising was whether the choice of diversion field was based purely on commercial considerations relating to that airlines operations with no "higher authority" considering the possible knock on effects on other airlines and their passengers.
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Fly Erbil will use a single Boeing 737-300 aircraft UR-CQW which is operated by Ukrainian charter airline, Bravo Airways.
Kurdistan’s first airline, Fly Erbil, will commence flights to the UK next month
Kurdistan’s first airline, Fly Erbil, will commence flights to the UK next month
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"We are targeting a real mix of carriers for new services from next year and beyond,” confides Tom Screen, Acting Director of Aviation at Birmingham Airport. “We are in talks with the likes of Cathay Pacific, airBaltic and Finnair about connecting to their respective hubs,” adds Screen. One hot prospect which should come to fruition before next year is Air Arabia Maroc, which Screen hopes will soon be announcing an Agadir service from W18/19. Existing carriers are also not immune to growth at Birmingham either, with Jet2.com providing two further units for S19, extra capacity from TUI Airways, as well as the prospect of Lufthansa adding capacity on its Munich operation and KLM offering extra seats to Amsterdam this winter. Despite its faltering start this summer, Primera Air has indicated that it will bring back its transatlantic services for S19. Terminal expansion To cope with the growing pains, the UK regional gateway is expanding its terminal capacity from 14 to 18 million annual passengers. “Scheduled to be open in September 2020, this development with give us some head room for short to medium-term growth”
"We are targeting a real mix of carriers for new services from next year and beyond,” confides Tom Screen, Acting Director of Aviation at Birmingham Airport. “We are in talks with the likes of Cathay Pacific, airBaltic and Finnair about connecting to their respective hubs,” adds Screen. One hot prospect which should come to fruition before next year is Air Arabia Maroc, which Screen hopes will soon be announcing an Agadir service from W18/19. Existing carriers are also not immune to growth at Birmingham either, with Jet2.com providing two further units for S19, extra capacity from TUI Airways, as well as the prospect of Lufthansa adding capacity on its Munich operation and KLM offering extra seats to Amsterdam this winter. Despite its faltering start this summer, Primera Air has indicated that it will bring back its transatlantic services for S19. Terminal expansion To cope with the growing pains, the UK regional gateway is expanding its terminal capacity from 14 to 18 million annual passengers. “Scheduled to be open in September 2020, this development with give us some head room for short to medium-term growth”
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Nice to see some potential good news on this thread about routes and airlines at BHX. It has been a bruising year with the loss of ZB, FI, UA, TS.....Fingers very much crossed for Air Arabia, I think there is potential for RAK too, although TUI go there, their fares are usually eye wateringly high.
Finnair have had BHX on the radar for a while - again fingers crossed. A very good option for one stop Far East flight connections.
Cathay, hmm, I would have though they would add capacity or a second frequency at MAN first before looking at BHX. Their service from MAN has been an instant success, it would be very interesting to see how many pax originate from the West Mids. for this and their flights from LHR/LGW. EK and QR manage quite happily serving all three, perhaps CX could do too. It would be the shot in the arm BHX needs right now. The fact they are 'talking' and he's made that public is good news in itself.
As for Primark Airlines, faltering is a very flattering way to describe it. I still very much doubt they will be back next year. Apparently STN and CDG doing well with bookings, I think this is where they will concentrate their ops.
Finnair have had BHX on the radar for a while - again fingers crossed. A very good option for one stop Far East flight connections.
Cathay, hmm, I would have though they would add capacity or a second frequency at MAN first before looking at BHX. Their service from MAN has been an instant success, it would be very interesting to see how many pax originate from the West Mids. for this and their flights from LHR/LGW. EK and QR manage quite happily serving all three, perhaps CX could do too. It would be the shot in the arm BHX needs right now. The fact they are 'talking' and he's made that public is good news in itself.
As for Primark Airlines, faltering is a very flattering way to describe it. I still very much doubt they will be back next year. Apparently STN and CDG doing well with bookings, I think this is where they will concentrate their ops.
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Nice to see some potential good news on this thread about routes and airlines at BHX. It has been a bruising year with the loss of ZB, FI, UA, TS.....Fingers very much crossed for Air Arabia, I think there is potential for RAK too, although TUI go there, their fares are usually eye wateringly high.
Finnair have had BHX on the radar for a while - again fingers crossed. A very good option for one stop Far East flight connections.
Cathay, hmm, I would have though they would add capacity or a second frequency at MAN first before looking at BHX. Their service from MAN has been an instant success, it would be very interesting to see how many pax originate from the West Mids. for this and their flights from LHR/LGW. EK and QR manage quite happily serving all three, perhaps CX could do too. It would be the shot in the arm BHX needs right now. The fact they are 'talking' and he's made that public is good news in itself.
As for Primark Airlines, faltering is a very flattering way to describe it. I still very much doubt they will be back next year. Apparently STN and CDG doing well with bookings, I think this is where they will concentrate their ops.
Finnair have had BHX on the radar for a while - again fingers crossed. A very good option for one stop Far East flight connections.
Cathay, hmm, I would have though they would add capacity or a second frequency at MAN first before looking at BHX. Their service from MAN has been an instant success, it would be very interesting to see how many pax originate from the West Mids. for this and their flights from LHR/LGW. EK and QR manage quite happily serving all three, perhaps CX could do too. It would be the shot in the arm BHX needs right now. The fact they are 'talking' and he's made that public is good news in itself.
As for Primark Airlines, faltering is a very flattering way to describe it. I still very much doubt they will be back next year. Apparently STN and CDG doing well with bookings, I think this is where they will concentrate their ops.
When I transferred a cancelled flight from BHX to Stansted for Toronto due to cost reasons and not convenience the agent stated that a large percentage of BHX customers had done that. If STN/YYZ is not doing well with these one time customers then it never will.
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One hot prospect which should come to fruition before next year is Air Arabia Maroc, which Screen hopes will soon be announcing an Agadir service from W18/19.
As for Primark don't hold your breath, if they come back how long will they last? Again I can't help thinking that management planning screwed up big time expecting half a dozen Neos to arrive in March April time for a 3 base operation. I see folk aren't too happy on the STN page by the appearance of National again.
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And there was me thinking it had been quite a while since another route dropped post at BHX, oh at least a couple of weeks
No surprise, dreadful frequency and timings and no advertising. I wonder how many flights were actually flown, it was usually Non Op on FIDS.
The Route Un-Development Team office must be such a depressing place to work these days.
No surprise, dreadful frequency and timings and no advertising. I wonder how many flights were actually flown, it was usually Non Op on FIDS.
The Route Un-Development Team office must be such a depressing place to work these days.
And there was me thinking it had been quite a while since another route dropped post at BHX, oh at least a couple of weeks
No surprise, dreadful frequency and timings and no advertising. I wonder how many flights were actually flown, it was usually Non Op on FIDS.
The Route Un-Development Team office must be such a depressing place to work these days.
No surprise, dreadful frequency and timings and no advertising. I wonder how many flights were actually flown, it was usually Non Op on FIDS.
The Route Un-Development Team office must be such a depressing place to work these days.
Monarch proved a demand last summer with a more leisure orientated frequency and timings - perhaps the price they had to sell the seats at were just not sustainable, but they certainly put bums on seats. Perhaps Jet2 might look at the route, operating on a similar basis to that which Monarch operated.
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Monarch proved a demand last summer with a more leisure orientated frequency and timings - perhaps the price they had to sell the seats at were just not sustainable, but they certainly put bums on seats. Perhaps Jet2 might look at the route, operating on a similar basis to that which Monarch operated.
If they did, they probably try LBA/MAN first, as they do with LRH/EGC. With that trial in the 1st year, it would be bare minimum 2020 before they started from BHX, plenty of time for others to jump on the opportunity.
Having said that, Maybe Jet2 need to have a bit more faith in BHX? would certainly help diversify their portfolio and take advantage while they can
Nice idea, but a bit of a long shot. Vast majority of units head south, not north (unless you count the return leg...)
If they did, they probably try LBA/MAN first, as they do with LRH/EGC. With that trial in the 1st year, it would be bare minimum 2020 before they started from BHX, plenty of time for others to jump on the opportunity.
Having said that, Maybe Jet2 need to have a bit more faith in BHX? would certainly help diversify their portfolio and take advantage while they can
If they did, they probably try LBA/MAN first, as they do with LRH/EGC. With that trial in the 1st year, it would be bare minimum 2020 before they started from BHX, plenty of time for others to jump on the opportunity.
Having said that, Maybe Jet2 need to have a bit more faith in BHX? would certainly help diversify their portfolio and take advantage while they can
The real question is whether Jet2 management is happy to be primarily a bucket and spade carrier, or really wants to diversify into other markets that offer both business and leisure opportunities. They may well be of the opinion that the current model works, is successful and "if it ain't bust, don't fix it". If they decided to diversify there are a number of routes that could work, not only from BHX but also from LBA / NCL and possibly STN.
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I think they're cutting back the city break business from their second tier bases, which all have services to these cities from EZY and/or FR. From EDI, Vienna seems to be disappearing and Budapest is staying at twice weekly all summer,, instead of four pw.
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I don't think Jet2 will jump seriously into the city break market from any base as things stand. They are primarily a sun/ski route leisure airline not far removed from TUI and TCX IMO.
This leaves BHX in a bit of a hole as far as unserved city routes like ARN, LIS etc as I really can't see any suitable carrier to serve these markets. We all know that an EZY base will never happen (even if it did I doubt ARN would be their first choice of route!)
Jet2 may well diversify in the future but for now at BHX I feel future short term growth lies in leisure short haul (Jet2 TUI TCX) with legacy carriers static (apart from an outside chance of Finnair?) and long haul scheduled staying reduced to Mid East and India/Pakistan.
Its a very different outlook to just 3 years ago when you could barely keep up with new routes and we had a brief sniff of China!
This leaves BHX in a bit of a hole as far as unserved city routes like ARN, LIS etc as I really can't see any suitable carrier to serve these markets. We all know that an EZY base will never happen (even if it did I doubt ARN would be their first choice of route!)
Jet2 may well diversify in the future but for now at BHX I feel future short term growth lies in leisure short haul (Jet2 TUI TCX) with legacy carriers static (apart from an outside chance of Finnair?) and long haul scheduled staying reduced to Mid East and India/Pakistan.
Its a very different outlook to just 3 years ago when you could barely keep up with new routes and we had a brief sniff of China!