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To put it bluntly- they died! A lot of the 70s/80s Canadian market was elderly Brits visiting offspring in Canada, or coming back to visit family in the UK. The level of migration to Canada in the last 30-40 years is a fraction of what it was in the 50s and 60s. It's still a popular place to visit of course, just not at the traffic levels there used to be.
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Back in the sixties, seventies and eighties there were far more travellers to Canada as a result of the large emigration that took part from Britain. This led to more frequent visits by relatives if these 'new Canadians ' as they went to see where their families had settled and to retain contact.
Now those Canadians are well established and the immediate family links are being lost as sons and daughters become grandparents etc to the UK generation.
Yes, Air Transat have good loads on their present frequency of flights but whether a daily service could be supported is questionable.
Now those Canadians are well established and the immediate family links are being lost as sons and daughters become grandparents etc to the UK generation.
Yes, Air Transat have good loads on their present frequency of flights but whether a daily service could be supported is questionable.
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Was Vancouver ever daily? Toronto certainly was but Vancouver was one or twice weekly combined with Calgary if I recall. You're right to say the market died, but unusually, it has come back to life. Air Canada abandoned first GLA and later MAN with only the coming of Zoom opening Canada up as a proper holiday destination. Zoom and flyglobespan did the legwork and allowed Westjet and Air Canada Rouge step up and take the spoils.
Rouge launched EDI and MAN with GLA regaining it's link last year.
All good news IMHO
Rouge launched EDI and MAN with GLA regaining it's link last year.
All good news IMHO
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VIR A340 G-VWIN due in from MCO on VIR 74 today, positioned to LGW yesterday to operate to MCO then returned here and will operate LAS today. Problems with the 744 fleet?
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amazing the number of operators who have done YVR-MAN
The long time operators were Wardair via Calgary or Edmonton with Winnepeg weekly a terminator and CP-Air .
Many/most of your lists were Toronto services.
JMC/Thomas Cook served Calgary for a time on behalf of Canadian affairs - This went to Air Transat. Also was a long time year round route with winter skiers in addition to those taking the scenic rail services.
Others missed include BMA 707s again mainly charters to Toronto and later as bmi with AC codeshare 332 service to Toronto and Canadian 763 schedules to Toronto before to Air Canada merger.
Montreal hasn't really has much regular services since the 70's by BA although their has been occasional series charters.
Others included Ontario Air 707s again to Toronto , Nationair, Odyssey, Pacific Western, Quebecair, and Worldways over the years.
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VIR A340 G-VWIN due in from MCO on VIR 74 today, positioned to LGW yesterday to operate to MCO then returned here and will operate LAS today. Problems with the 744 fleet?
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My contact at Manchester is unaware (or unable to say) of any Air Canada expansion plans for S17.
Out of interest does anybody know when the September stats will be released by either MAG or the CAA?
Out of interest does anybody know when the September stats will be released by either MAG or the CAA?
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Sad to say I have heard the same - YVR-MAN was a surprise to my local country head.
His words paraphrased - "Manchester - Toronto is pretty much the ideal Rouge route. Seasonal, leisure, VFR."
So why MAN-YVR?
A flight from MAN to YVR does not add a significant number of new destinations to MAN (or YVR) that would make this flight worthwhile. Where can pax go beyond YVR?
And if MAN-YYZ is only at 5-6 weekly on Rouge in high Summer - Toronto is by far Canada's largest city - how on earth would a 5 x weekly 777 to YVR work?
His words paraphrased - "Manchester - Toronto is pretty much the ideal Rouge route. Seasonal, leisure, VFR."
So why MAN-YVR?
A flight from MAN to YVR does not add a significant number of new destinations to MAN (or YVR) that would make this flight worthwhile. Where can pax go beyond YVR?
And if MAN-YYZ is only at 5-6 weekly on Rouge in high Summer - Toronto is by far Canada's largest city - how on earth would a 5 x weekly 777 to YVR work?
And if MAN-YYZ is only at 5-6 weekly on Rouge in high Summer - Toronto is by far Canada's largest city - how on earth would a 5 x weekly 777 to YVR work?
It kept the SQ running for years.
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Manchester airport has finally updated its passenger stats on their website - just May missing.
Moving annual throughput including passengers at the end of September - 24,919,935.
Hopefully October may see the 25 million barrier being broken.
Moving annual throughput including passengers at the end of September - 24,919,935.
Hopefully October may see the 25 million barrier being broken.
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Traffic stats
The significant figure generally used to compare airport's throughput is terminal pax, and so we have to take 24.85M as the September rolling figure. Still very healthy and an all time record. I think October will fall just short of 25M, but we'll see that well within the calendar year. From there you need just 4% growth per annum to reach 30M in 4-5 years time.
The figure which jumps out is the 186,000 rolling ATMs. This has leapt up this year, and if the winter schedule is as busy as I am hearing, we will soon be back to 200,000 ATMs, a figure not seen since well back in the last decade.
The figure which jumps out is the 186,000 rolling ATMs. This has leapt up this year, and if the winter schedule is as busy as I am hearing, we will soon be back to 200,000 ATMs, a figure not seen since well back in the last decade.
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Direct flights from UK to China to more than double | The Independent
This will be interesting how this materialises into actual flights.
The deal lifts the limit of direct flights per week from 40 to 100 in both directions, and restrictions on cargo flights will be completely lifted.
A second rule, that decrees only six airports in each country can offer direct flights between the two will also be lifted, allowing for direct flights between the UK and dozens more Chinese destinations.
A second rule, that decrees only six airports in each country can offer direct flights between the two will also be lifted, allowing for direct flights between the UK and dozens more Chinese destinations.
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with air Canada i was surprised when i heard about the man-yvr route. especially with a 777. i am in agreement that the yyz could do with a larger aircraft, but what there plans are with yvr i don't know. i just know that there is a fair chance that we could have 12 flights a week as of next April.
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