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Old 8th Sep 2016, 22:50
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PIA may ditch MAN stop to New York in favour of Leipzig, Germany has allowed fifth freedom to PK to fly the route from 2017, cargo as well, reports DW Urdu News.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 07:04
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Reported elsewhere that AA MAN-JFK will be suspended Jan-Mar 2017
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 07:08
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Why all the other services we have to NYC then we're probably lucky it has not been chopped full stop, as seems to be the case at BHX.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 07:57
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Wouldn't surprise me with the reliability of both JFK and ORD this year! Who would want to take the chance and fly on the above routes?

Although AA210/211 are still bookable at the minute.
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The loss of 2 (one way) PIA flights a week to JFK wouldn't be a huge loss other than revenue from aircraft movements, but, let's not forget they planned to move the JFK stop a while back (to SNN) and it didn't materialise, so, we will have to wait and see with this Leipzig plan.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 10:01
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More Ryanair S17 expansion plans announced. This time for EDI & GLA. LPL and STN already done.

When's our turn?
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When we can fit more in maybe ! Sure T3's overflowing situation is sending growth elsewhere.
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PIA may ditch MAN stop to New York in favour of Leipzig, Germany has allowed fifth freedom to PK to fly the route from 2017, cargo as well, reports DW Urdu News.
Selling the under floor space to DHL?
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 13:25
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Emirates to use the A380 on the morning EK21/22 flight from 14-29th October inclusive, due to high forward bookings.

This is in addition to the permanent upgrade to the A380 from 1st January

All confirmed and bookable.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 13:38
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Stand 10 closure 12th September for 4 weeks

Stand 10 to be closed for 4 weeks to enable 2nd storey extension to the passenger lounge.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 13:59
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Stand 10 to be closed for 4 weeks to enable 2nd storey extension to the passenger lounge.
I know Stand 10 was the one to have it's airbridge removed recently. I would imagine this is part of the reevelopment plans for Pier B?
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 14:52
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Which one is stand 10?
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 15:01
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Between 8 and 12! Seriously though, it's on the outside of Pier B and just before the A380 stand.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 15:02
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Hmmm, that's the normal gate for the afternoon EZ AMS flight that I take. Always get a good view of the EK A380 pushing back (late).
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 16:32
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Originally Posted by Sholto Douglas
Between 8 and 12! Seriously though, it's on the outside of Pier B and just before the A380 stand.
Cheers SD! 👍
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 19:12
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Ironically, stand 10 is one of the better gate areas (aside from hot days) on b pier as there is actually space.
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Old 9th Sep 2016, 20:38
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Reported elsewhere that AA MAN-JFK will be suspended Jan-Mar 2017
Going seasonal from Oct17 too. Bit of a run down in AA ops.
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Going seasonal from Oct17 too. Bit of a run down in AA ops.
Interesting to see how this is unfolding. With the weaker exchange rate I was expecting TCX and VS, with their heavier dependence on UK originating traffic, to be the first to blink. However it's the US carriers leading the cuts to UK regional capacity this winter and next year (albeit so far MAN appears to have been spared any cuts for next summer). Meanwhile TCX and VS have actually embarked on expansion plans from MAN for next year. Just shows how unpredictable the airline industry can be !

I expect the US carriers with their global networks have decided they can make more money elsewhere with those assets in the short term - fair enough. TCX and VS meanwhile are much more "eggs in one basket" with the UK/US market. Perhaps they are taking a longer term view and grabbing the opportunity to tighten their grip on the UK regions while UA/AA play with their toys in other markets ? Also TCX and VS don't have such significant networks elsewhere to redeploy their aircraft - especially TCX.

No doubt AA, like some others, will attempt to lay all the blame for these cuts on brexit. However I suspect a significant amount of damage to UA/AA's revenue has been brought on by themselves, by continuing to supply an outdated, poor value and at times hopelessly unreliable product to MAN and the rest of the UK regions. In doing so they left the door wide open for carriers like TCX and VS to come in and do it better or cheaper (in AA's case both !!). Even the much trumpeted arrival of the AA 787 on ORD this summer turned out to be an operational disaster, to the extent it had to be pulled earlier than planned and reverted to 767s (oh and by the way, the AA ORD is cancelled again today !!).

With better quality competition going west from VS, TCX, and soon SQ, it will be interesting to see just how long the AA/UA seasonality will be next summer for JFK, ORD and IAD. Longer term will they continue with the same business plan (skim the summer market with a cr@p product), rise to the competition, or simply disappear ?

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Old 10th Sep 2016, 07:04
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The British are still shy of Turkey, Spain and the Canaries are full so a move to the USA is a natural development of the holiday market.
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Old 10th Sep 2016, 08:19
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Another issue Manchester airport has to seriously look at is traffic congestion. As someone who works at the airport, the time to get from T1 to T3 by road for example can at times take 15+ minutes! A distance of what, half a mile! Whoever devised the drop off area at T3 must have been about 12 yrs old with a crayon and blank bit of paper. Also those 'Traffic Marshalls' want to try stop standing around looking at the world going by and try to keep traffic flowing.��
Absolutely. Last night about 2000, the vehicle queue to get into T3 went back past the Long Stay roundabout and the roundabout under the T1 departures ramp and back to the Hilton entrance. As the roundabout under the T1 departures ramp was at a standstill, this meant that cars exiting T3 were only getting through with difficulty.And so the problem was compounded.
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