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With 3 flights a day Manchester is ideal as LAX says you can move crews about easily. PIK is a complete non starter.
Even Kuwait using SNN seems bizarre. ....
At least the shuttles from Kuwait City to one of the MEBS who frequent the UK would make more sense re crewing.
Even Kuwait using SNN seems bizarre. ....
At least the shuttles from Kuwait City to one of the MEBS who frequent the UK would make more sense re crewing.
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Even Kuwait using SNN seems bizarre. ....
Currently they have closed sales beyond Heathrow till the seasons end to protect their slot and have already re-routed 117 across Shannon .
From the end of the summer season LHR- Kuwait will go twice daily on some days and the TALC services will all transit Shannon for security and clearance as a tech stop without traffic rights.
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KU117 was the non-stop Kuwait City to JFK. Shannon was chosen because the flight arrives at a time when the airport is quiet. All passengers are deplaned as is the hold baggage and everything is screened. There is no preclearance for US immigration available as this currently closes afer the Shannon lunchtime US departures.
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Please use correct airport codes
Assuming you are referring to Prestwick can you please use PIK as its code. PWK is Chicago Executive Airport and presumably has no relevance to the current discussion.
Sorry, but had to say it.
Sorry, but had to say it.
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I know a relative on a Heathrow JFK flight last week. ....
Apparently you could have put everybody on a F50 !
Apparently you could have put everybody on a F50 !
AA JFK-LHR x 4
BA EWR-LHR x 2
BA JFK-LHR x 8
BA JFK-LGW x 1
BA JFK-LCY x 2
(JV = 17 daily)
DL JFK-LHR x 3
VS JFK-LHR x 5
VS EWR-LHR x 1
(JV = 9 daily)
UA EWR-LHR x 5
DY JFK-LGW x 1
B0 EWR-LTN x 1
It 's clearly a huge anti-Northern conspiracy to lose as much money as possible. It's just not possible that this is commercially viable, or indeed one of the best performers. #honest (33 daily btw)
PIK just sounds more like Pill???k sorry !
Why is Kuwait stopping at SNN? Has the US rescinded Kuwait-US direct flight authority?
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Perhaps it's the JV fare revenue sharing agreement which mitigates the losses to a sole carrier and why it's maintained. Keeping one or two slots warm would also outweigh losses.
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Originally Posted by S1E
Bagso makes a great point. I cannot for the life of me understand why London has the following :
AA JFK-LHR x 4
BA EWR-LHR x 2
BA JFK-LHR x 8
BA JFK-LGW x 1
BA JFK-LCY x 2
(JV = 17 daily)
DL JFK-LHR x 3
VS JFK-LHR x 5
VS EWR-LHR x 1
(JV = 9 daily)
UA EWR-LHR x 5
DY JFK-LGW x 1
B0 EWR-LTN x 1
AA JFK-LHR x 4
BA EWR-LHR x 2
BA JFK-LHR x 8
BA JFK-LGW x 1
BA JFK-LCY x 2
(JV = 17 daily)
DL JFK-LHR x 3
VS JFK-LHR x 5
VS EWR-LHR x 1
(JV = 9 daily)
UA EWR-LHR x 5
DY JFK-LGW x 1
B0 EWR-LTN x 1
You've bundled all 4 airports which serve both New York hubs. Collectively, over 375,000 passengers routinely travel the route on a monthly basis each way, utilising premium heavy aircraft in the main.
Despite oft claimed 'fact' on here, JFK remains a BA revenue jewel; there's a sound reason behind the decision to reconfigure and go 'Super-J' on the B744s.
MAN, by comparison, tends to hover around 29 - 30,000 with smaller aircraft, smaller premium cabins and a scheduled low-cost model operator.
Or were you typing, tongue firmly-in-cheek..?
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Didn't have anything planned for today so I had a look at the destinations on offer from MAN.
For S17 there are 179 destinations available (181 if included IAH & MCT).
The countries with the most destinations:
1. Spain - 19
2. Greece - 15
3. USA - 13
4. Italy -12
5. France - 11
6. Germany - 8
7. Poland - 5
8. Portugal - 5
For S17 there are 179 destinations available (181 if included IAH & MCT).
The countries with the most destinations:
1. Spain - 19
2. Greece - 15
3. USA - 13
4. Italy -12
5. France - 11
6. Germany - 8
7. Poland - 5
8. Portugal - 5
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I haven't checked the THY timetable for specifics but would not expect a problem with this. Transatlantic flights departing from IST are highly unlikely to clash with MAN's overnight and early-morning stand congestion. Late morning and early afternoon timings should represent no problem at all for stands.
Are they likely to depart earlier due to the extra couple/few hours they will be on the ground en-route for security checks?
Two or three hours earlier into Man could cause some problems with free stands.
If they arrive a few hours late ALL connections will be missed. I have no idea how many PAX this would involve but it could create some big problems on the U.S side.
I haven't checked the THY timetable for specifics but would not expect a problem with this. Transatlantic flights departing from IST are highly unlikely to clash with MAN's overnight and early-morning stand congestion. Late morning and early afternoon timings should represent no problem at all for stands.
Are they likely to depart earlier due to the extra couple/few hours they will be on the ground en-route for security checks?
Two or three hours earlier into Man could cause some problems with free stands.
If they arrive a few hours late ALL connections will be missed. I have no idea how many PAX this would involve but it could create some big problems on the U.S side.
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It is supposed to be to test demand to see whether mainline can operate next year so that the Rouge aircraft can be allocated elsewhere (they are limited in the number of rouge aircraft by union agreements).
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It is supposed to be to test demand to see whether mainline can operate next year so that the Rouge aircraft can be allocated elsewhere (they are limited in the number of rouge aircraft by union agreements).
They are getting 6 more B767s and AC are phasing out the final 15 B767's as B789's arrive so most of them will be heading to Rouge.
Testing mainline for a route which lasts 3-4 months is not viable at all, a longer Rouge schedule March-October and Year Round operation should be the aim before moving to high cost mainline.
Think it was also discussed fares didn't change to reflect mainline J cabin.
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How will the energy be provided?
We have no coal-mines, yet Drax, Retcliffe, Fiddlers and Ferrybridge still need feeding.
Many of our nuclear plants are at the end of their lives. Replacements take years to build.
Fusion is still way in the future.
What do we do in 25 years or so when all the nice fracking gas runs out?
Renewables.....Wind and solar......Great, but, - how do you deal with a month-long blocking anticylone.......In the winter......At night?
'Peak Oil'.....When supplies start to decline, how will the moving-parts of HS2/3 etc be lubricated?
We have no coal-mines, yet Drax, Retcliffe, Fiddlers and Ferrybridge still need feeding.
Many of our nuclear plants are at the end of their lives. Replacements take years to build.
Fusion is still way in the future.
What do we do in 25 years or so when all the nice fracking gas runs out?
Renewables.....Wind and solar......Great, but, - how do you deal with a month-long blocking anticylone.......In the winter......At night?
'Peak Oil'.....When supplies start to decline, how will the moving-parts of HS2/3 etc be lubricated?
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The FAA has lifted the requirement for Turkey - USA flights to be security screened in an en-route European Airport. Flights are now cleared to operate non-stop from Turkey to the USA.