DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6
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Once Peel are out of the way the airlines will return.
It was Peel who pushed Thomsons out of the door.
They only ever wanted the land to build on.
Hopefully somebody in the councils will get a grip as George once suggested in this article
Thomson flights axed from Durham Tees Valley Airport - BBC News
The group will have a better idea of how to run an airport than all the Peel Master Plan rubbish.
It was Peel who pushed Thomsons out of the door.
They only ever wanted the land to build on.
Hopefully somebody in the councils will get a grip as George once suggested in this article
Thomson flights axed from Durham Tees Valley Airport - BBC News
The group will have a better idea of how to run an airport than all the Peel Master Plan rubbish.
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Once Peel are out of the way the airlines will return.
It was Peel who pushed Thomsons out of the door.
They only ever wanted the land to build on.
Hopefully somebody in the councils will get a grip as George once suggested in this article
Thomson flights axed from Durham Tees Valley Airport - BBC News
The group will have a better idea of how to run an airport than all the Peel Master Plan rubbish.
It was Peel who pushed Thomsons out of the door.
They only ever wanted the land to build on.
Hopefully somebody in the councils will get a grip as George once suggested in this article
Thomson flights axed from Durham Tees Valley Airport - BBC News
The group will have a better idea of how to run an airport than all the Peel Master Plan rubbish.
They are the ones who are voluntarily absorbing a multi-million pound loss, they are the ones voluntarily keeping the place open where most if not all others would shut up shop
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A bit like Roberts posts and the Peel master plan.
Don't forget to hand the hangar keys back to Peel when you go back on the beat in April
Don't forget to hand the hangar keys back to Peel when you go back on the beat in April
Once Peel are out of the way the airlines will return.
Come on then if Peel ever did leave who is going to bail the place out? Councils have no money, that's why they sold it, its never made a profit.
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Do we know when the final planning decision is to be made?
On the one hand, I don't want to see houses built as it is an obvious conflict. However, if it is an integral part of the plan and it gets knocked back, what happens next?
On the one hand, I don't want to see houses built as it is an obvious conflict. However, if it is an integral part of the plan and it gets knocked back, what happens next?
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There was me thinking the reason for the sale was to bring in a commercial partner to help raise capital for re development.
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
The glaringly obvious is that a one off sale of land to housing developers is only going to raise a one off figure which may or may not be spent on the airport. On top of this DBC even suggest this would stifle growth, they mention pax growth but let not forget that GA in the circuit will actually be more annoying. After all Peels strategy is now diversification of operations (I'm all for this) but noise is noise and whether it's an airport with 200000 movements and 150k pax or 200000 movements and 1m pax you get the same problems.
I supported Peel when they came, I believed it would be good for the airport, but now I see them for who they are. They have run the place into the ground and this cannot be argued any more! They are after one thing and one thing only development land and to hell with the airport!
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
The glaringly obvious is that a one off sale of land to housing developers is only going to raise a one off figure which may or may not be spent on the airport. On top of this DBC even suggest this would stifle growth, they mention pax growth but let not forget that GA in the circuit will actually be more annoying. After all Peels strategy is now diversification of operations (I'm all for this) but noise is noise and whether it's an airport with 200000 movements and 150k pax or 200000 movements and 1m pax you get the same problems.
I supported Peel when they came, I believed it would be good for the airport, but now I see them for who they are. They have run the place into the ground and this cannot be argued any more! They are after one thing and one thing only development land and to hell with the airport!
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There was me thinking the reason for the sale was to bring in a commercial partner to help raise capital for re development.
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
The glaringly obvious is that a one off sale of land to housing developers is only going to raise a one off figure which may or may not be spent on the airport. On top of this DBC even suggest this would stifle growth, they mention pax growth but let not forget that GA in the circuit will actually be more annoying. After all Peels strategy is now diversification of operations (I'm all for this) but noise is noise and whether it's an airport with 200000 movements and 150k pax or 200000 movements and 1m pax you get the same problems.
I supported Peel when they came, I believed it would be good for the airport, but now I see them for who they are. They have run the place into the ground and this cannot be argued any more! They are after one thing and one thing only development land and to hell with the airport!
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
The glaringly obvious is that a one off sale of land to housing developers is only going to raise a one off figure which may or may not be spent on the airport. On top of this DBC even suggest this would stifle growth, they mention pax growth but let not forget that GA in the circuit will actually be more annoying. After all Peels strategy is now diversification of operations (I'm all for this) but noise is noise and whether it's an airport with 200000 movements and 150k pax or 200000 movements and 1m pax you get the same problems.
I supported Peel when they came, I believed it would be good for the airport, but now I see them for who they are. They have run the place into the ground and this cannot be argued any more! They are after one thing and one thing only development land and to hell with the airport!
I've been going up their well over 45 years and never seen the place so bad....
peel obviously know how to run an airport.. (look at Doncaster)... but thiers only one place their running this place.. "that's into the ground"... and while on about the masterplan and south side... this has been going on for years... well before peel come along...
Peel now have a good chance to make something of the airport by doubling up/W flybe flights now that doncaster is a flybe base.. so let's just see what peel do, as if nothing comes of it, then I'm afraid even the so called 'peel lovers' have to question peels intentions!!
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Peel certainly don't have a good record for developing airports but they certainly have a good record for building on them eg Sheffield.
Also airports that have developed under their leadership was largely done using other peoples money eg EU grants for EGCN
And my past experiences of peel have been that they have little or no interest in encouraging GA operations.
Also airports that have developed under their leadership was largely done using other peoples money eg EU grants for EGCN
And my past experiences of peel have been that they have little or no interest in encouraging GA operations.
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They have run the place into the ground and this cannot be argued any more!
Aside from this, literally every other significant piece of business lost was because of circumstances relating to the client and not the host.
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Moving away from Peel, Omega Holidays are doing some one off charters next year, Friedrichshafen, Dubrovnik, Venice and Naples using Eastern's Embraer 170, through July and August. Nothing on the airports website just yet.
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Robert-Ryan, Peel have done their up most to make the place un attractive to airline investment. Fire cover and ATC cover has been axed, I know of staff that have been hounded out, no investment in the place. Where has the promised £25m been spent?
If they put as much effort into actually operating as an airport rather than a housing development the place wouldn't be struggling as much.
If they put as much effort into actually operating as an airport rather than a housing development the place wouldn't be struggling as much.
There was me thinking the reason for the sale was to bring in a commercial partner to help raise capital for re development.
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
I have records showing the airport making money 20 odd years ago. Do you have evidence to say it was losing money 15 years ago?
Peel certainly don't have a good record for developing airports but they certainly have a good record for building on them eg Sheffield.
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Robert-Ryan, Peel have done their up most to make the place un attractive to airline investment. Fire cover and ATC cover has been axed, I know of staff that have been hounded out, no investment in the place. Where has the promised £25m been spent?
If they put as much effort into actually operating as an airport rather than a housing development the place wouldn't be struggling as much.
If they put as much effort into actually operating as an airport rather than a housing development the place wouldn't be struggling as much.
As far as I can see your response is mostly opinion so I'll say again - prove that they have run the place into the ground...
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Well I'd say that was about as fundamental to the destruction of an airport as it gets.
Then there are those posting on this site whose interests are to say the least questionable.
The only thing Peel have done themselves that could be considered adverse toward the airport is axing inclusive tour charter flights,
Then there are those posting on this site whose interests are to say the least questionable.
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Originally Posted by skyman771
Well I'd say that was about as fundamental to the destruction of an airport as it gets.
Then there are those posting on this site whose interests are to say the least questionable.
The only thing Peel have done themselves that could be considered adverse toward the airport is axing inclusive tour charter flights,
On 07/01/03 it was announced that Peel Airports would be the ‘preferred bidder’ to become a Strategic Partner in the airports long-term development, with detailed negotiations taking place with the aim of finalising an agreement by March. Councillor Bob Gibson, speaking on behalf of the shareholder authorities, said they were impressed with the level of investment and expertise which the company was prepared to commit to Teesside International, coupled with the its strong track record in the transportation and property development fields. Peel will be working with the local authority shareholders to bring forward development of commercial property at the airport, including the regionally important Southside site, in addition to the operational business of the airport.
Robert Hough, chairman of Peel Airports, said: "Teesside International Airport has seen significant improvements, but in an increasingly competitive market for air services it is now entering an important phase in its development. We believe this proposed investment by Peel will enable its full potential to be achieved, providing greater choice to business and leisure passengers alike in a major conurbation and also bringing significant economic benefits. For Peel, it enables the group to expand in the regional airport sector, where it has achieved considerable success in recent years, particularly in the growth at Liverpool John Lennon Airport. With Liverpool in the North West and probably also Finningley in Yorkshire , the Peel Group will be able to serve the three key northern regions of England". Peter Nears, Peels strategic planning director, said: "Airports are widely recognised as drivers of economic growth and therefore maximising the regenerative benefits Teesside International Airport can bring to the local economy will be a priority. In particular, we see synergies between the services the airport provides and adjacent commercial development opportunities."
Robert Hough, chairman of Peel Airports, said: "Teesside International Airport has seen significant improvements, but in an increasingly competitive market for air services it is now entering an important phase in its development. We believe this proposed investment by Peel will enable its full potential to be achieved, providing greater choice to business and leisure passengers alike in a major conurbation and also bringing significant economic benefits. For Peel, it enables the group to expand in the regional airport sector, where it has achieved considerable success in recent years, particularly in the growth at Liverpool John Lennon Airport. With Liverpool in the North West and probably also Finningley in Yorkshire , the Peel Group will be able to serve the three key northern regions of England". Peter Nears, Peels strategic planning director, said: "Airports are widely recognised as drivers of economic growth and therefore maximising the regenerative benefits Teesside International Airport can bring to the local economy will be a priority. In particular, we see synergies between the services the airport provides and adjacent commercial development opportunities."