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Old 4th Feb 2016, 18:10
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Can somebody clarify the statements about all the hangars being full and needing more? Looking at the residents list on the DTVM website this doesn't seem to be the case or is Hangar 1 still full of Sycamore's bits and pieces - I thought this was all cleared at the time of the lock out?
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 18:27
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see no evil.... Speak no evil...

Movements down 3% year on year..
No work for Sycamore?
Fuel prices now increasing by 30%
Resident aircraft wrecked by wind(I know ....that's not fair,but any airport precautions in place to avoid?)
Lowest passenger figures since early 1970's
A stuttering master plan
Restricted fire cover
Restricted ATC cover at times
An owner who..let's be honest..does not have a reliable track record for airport ownership.
Sweating the 'assets' ?? More like a little perspiration ....
Sorry I must be reading a different script to others.
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 18:38
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does not have a reliable track record for airport ownership
Been to Liverpool lately? if Peel can do to MME what they've done at Liverpool over the next twenty years, I don't think there will be too many complaints.
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 18:59
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Movements down 3% year on year..
That's not fair either, can't blame the airport for the downturn in oil industry!
No work for Sycamore?
Three 757s worth of parts in Hangar 1, crates from floor to ceiling, they've been dealing with off-site work
Fuel prices now increasing by 30%
Yeah I'll give you that one, but we're still not overly expensive, about mid-table I believe
Resident aircraft wrecked by wind(I know ....that's not fair,but any airport precautions in place to avoid?)
Up to the owners to tie them down - in theory some or all will be repaired or replaced
Lowest passenger figures since early 1970's
Can only go one way then - surely?
A stuttering master plan
Define stuttering? It's slow, very slow even, but they're ticking all the boxes they said they would thus far
Restricted fire cover
Can increase as necessary - what's your point
Restricted ATC cover at times
Very rare!!
An owner who..let's be honest..does not have a reliable track record for airport ownership.
Debatable, mix of the industry being in a poor state, an anti-aviation government and a little bad luck too. The will and good intent is there - regardless of what anyone says
Sweating the 'assets' ?? More like a little perspiration ....
Hmmm...I would say Peel are doing their best with what's available to them
Sorry I must be reading a different script to others.
You are - most people may have the same copy as you, but it's definitely the wrong script - and that ain't my optimism
And finally to provide a balanced argument and to hopefully demonstrate that I'm not totally Peel biased - SWBKCB - British Aerospace made Liverpool what they are today, Peel inherited an already thriving airport
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Wasn`t Teesside Airport a thriving airport till Peel ran it into the ground
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No. It only became a thriving airport afterwards when they built it up, attracting the various locos. Okay it was all lost, but see my post above as to the reasons for that.
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 14:50
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Revised airshow at Durham Tees Valley Airport this May will be 'bigger and better' than originally planned (From The Northern Echo)

Today's press. Still very sceptical, but if nothing else he can talk the talk.
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 15:01
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SWBKCB - British Aerospace made Liverpool what they are today, Peel inherited an already thriving airport
An arguable point, but I'm talking about the development of the old airport site, leading to a re-generation of the surrounding area.
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 15:41
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BAe did nothing at LPL and retreated back to their core business, building aeroplanes, as fast as they could. Peel bought it and has invested millions in it, albeit with EU help in the beginning and is still investing after the Canadians who they sold part to cocked it up. I think they made a profit from it though but that is their business model.
Given a chance when north east prosperity returns in earnest they will be able to put money where their mouth is as they have deep pockets.
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My apologies I thought it was BAe who brought easyJet in and built up the pax numbers - my mistake!

As far as Peel's deep pockets go (and again I could be wrong here), are they not just asset rich as opposed to cash rich?
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are they not just asset rich as opposed to cash rich
hmmm - always been a bit curious about Peel's "deep pockets, short arms" approach. Don't have a problem with them wanting to make use of any grant or aid which is going, but if the business case was that compelling I'd be expecting them to be ready to put in a bit more of their own cash.

I'm no expert (where is our resident Peel watcher?), but DTVA seems to be well down the pecking order when it comes to splashing the cash.
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 19:29
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Peel watcher

Re SWB- "I'm no expert (where is our resident Peel watcher?), but DTVA seems to be well down the pecking order when it comes to splashing the cash."

Answer: Have been watching over a quiet DTV fence line, and believe Peel are only in it for the land, so expect more houses in the future.
Peel are a big company with time on their hands. Well known in the funny handshake world.
The large grants always appear to pay for the infrastructure, (One NE grants) such as drains and road building which are where they now want to build houses on the north side. Funny old world
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 22:20
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Who's spending all the money on hangar one then?? New doors so far and possibly a new roof. They are also going to do the same work on hangar two.

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Old 11th Feb 2016, 12:48
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N707ZS - that's different - they've been given no choice in the matter because of health and safety, the doors would have fallen off had they not been replaced!
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KLM E175

I've read some comments that suggested MME could be an early candidate to see the E175. Well, the summer route schedule has been announced and it looks like we remain a F70 operation throughout. No sign of the baby Embraer just yet....
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Old 12th Feb 2016, 12:02
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I suspect they will start turning up at random, becoming more frequent as the F70s are retired, which according to the KLM engineers at DTVA will be at an accelerated rate.
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Old 12th Feb 2016, 13:32
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Yes, all will be gone by 2018 now. Problem is with random show ups is that there is often a crew change at Teesside; whilst the cabin crew will work on both aircraft I suspect the pilots will only be certified on one. That won't stop the odd one showing up here and there though.

Will miss those little Fokkers. Great little planes to ride in: probably done over a 100 F70 flights from Teesside over the years and they've rarely let me down....
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Old 12th Feb 2016, 15:47
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Lets hope someone buys a tow bar as the 190s that come in all have to park nose out.

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Old 18th Feb 2016, 07:00
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Housing development in Middleton St George becoming a heated topic - could have an impact on the Masterplan?


"Shame on you!" - Residents' anger as 200-home development is approved (From Darlington and Stockton Times)
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Old 18th Feb 2016, 12:58
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Its keeping Doris busy so she will have less time to medal with the airport hopefully.
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