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I am sure someone at the airport is looking beyond 18 million passengers as that figure could be with us from around 5 or 6 years.
The terminal can still be tweaked as the infill behind check-in desks 201 to 210, which sits at a right angle to the main check-in area has been cancelled. If it did take place the space in front of those desks where the passengers queue would have been the same size as the other check-in desks making them more usable but it was no simple task to build as the infill would have to go all the way down to the basement.
It is a shame that the new pier isn't going to the south stands as holding lounges could have been built to relieve pressure on the departure lounge but I can't really see what more can be done inside the CTA.
The terminal can still be tweaked as the infill behind check-in desks 201 to 210, which sits at a right angle to the main check-in area has been cancelled. If it did take place the space in front of those desks where the passengers queue would have been the same size as the other check-in desks making them more usable but it was no simple task to build as the infill would have to go all the way down to the basement.
It is a shame that the new pier isn't going to the south stands as holding lounges could have been built to relieve pressure on the departure lounge but I can't really see what more can be done inside the CTA.
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Thank LTNman , Interesting plan from the council!
It answers the question as to why the new taxiway would join at Point 2 on the layout.(Always thought it would be a second six pack but hadn't considered it at 90degrees)
Is it me or would the multi storey car park be much bigger than at presently planned?
There is even the option of being able to come into the CTA and leave via the roundabout so none of the barriers.
In the grand scheme of things how much more would it have cost to extend the piers down to the south stands as shown.
I would be interested to know why this plan wasn't implemented, was it just cost or did they foresee other problems.
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It answers the question as to why the new taxiway would join at Point 2 on the layout.(Always thought it would be a second six pack but hadn't considered it at 90degrees)
Is it me or would the multi storey car park be much bigger than at presently planned?
There is even the option of being able to come into the CTA and leave via the roundabout so none of the barriers.
In the grand scheme of things how much more would it have cost to extend the piers down to the south stands as shown.
I would be interested to know why this plan wasn't implemented, was it just cost or did they foresee other problems.
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Is it me or would the multi storey car park be much bigger than at presently planned?
The car park will be 15.7m tall with ground, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and roof parking.
It will be 150m long x 75m wide with a 100m x 20m link bridge towards the terminal and a 50m x 15m link bridge to the short term car park.
The MS car park will have 1,565 spaces and the short term car park will have an additional 1,264 making a total 2,829 spaces in the CTA. It would be those 1,264 spaces that would be lost if stands were built on the short term car park and yet another road layout would have to be built to remove the ring road.
By comparison Parkway MS car park has 816 spaces.
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Wizz really pulling the strings now, forcing them not to drop LTN-KUN but drop STN-KUN instead and LTN gains VNO.
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But it is not going to happen any time soon as the airport has already said that there is no point in having a runway rate higher than the rest of the airport can cope with. Again it is something that can be added later but is it a false economy not doing the work now?
Seem to remember Liverpool had high speed turn offs when their new runway was built half a lifetime ago and they still don't need them.
Seem to remember Liverpool had high speed turn offs when their new runway was built half a lifetime ago and they still don't need them.
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Seems like an easy one to switch just land at LTN rather than STN, where will the aircraft current running the route do or does it free up 4 rotations at STN?
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The RETs would certainly aid ATC during the morning rush, but no doubt a 'cost benefit analysis' would rule them out? A 90 degree turn off the runway requires the landing to virtually stop before making the turn, whereas the RETs are designed to allow an aircraft to maintain a good speed until vacated. All grown up airports have them and it means to can compress more runway movements into a given time period. As you say, the current taxiway system probably would not be able to cope.
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The cost of the RETs should not be prohibitive when taken in context of the total civils bill. When viewed from an operational point of view I can see a big plus from ATCs point of view as previously mentioned.
Going back to the earlier points regarding works East of Delta, not a problem. There would be some additional costs but no big deal. Considering the height of the existing pier above the east apron and Delta a bridge over Delta could be the best option both from an operational and cost point of view.
Going back to the earlier points regarding works East of Delta, not a problem. There would be some additional costs but no big deal. Considering the height of the existing pier above the east apron and Delta a bridge over Delta could be the best option both from an operational and cost point of view.
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Expect to see the airport on both ITV and BBC local news tonight as two camera crews were being escorted around the airport as the Minister of Transport is officially launching the redevelopment of the airport today.
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?Secretary of State for Transport highlights importance of LLA?s... - London Luton Airport
Note the comment!!!!!!!
Now those destinations appeared on a map in the old arrivals area last year that we discussed on PPRune.
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Note the comment!!!!!!!
An expanded range of airlines and routes, including more frequent services to popular cities and anticipated new flights to exciting new destinations such as Dubai, Orlando and Cancún
also
We’re working hard to improve their experience further by seeking to introduce a dedicated new Express rail service with four fast trains per hour and a fixed link to the terminal from Parkway train station.”
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Ryanair (apparently in response to Wizz Air) moves daily Kaunas-Stansted to Luton.
In the meantime Wizz announced LTN-Palanga which has recently been followed by Ryanair announcing Palanga as well but from STN!
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Yes exactly that!
Why they haven't left the KUN flights at STN somebody must know.
Are they seriously that worried about Wizz or are they just playing games again.
They probably couldn't move Palanga to LTN because its using a STN based a/c but KUN was simple.
So STN has lost two routes to LTN firstly CPH now KUN in my view unnecessarily
but who knows what and how Ryanair thinks.
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About time Orlando and Dubai have come back on the radar , here is hoping!!
Yes exactly that!
Why they haven't left the KUN flights at STN somebody must know.
Are they seriously that worried about Wizz or are they just playing games again.
They probably couldn't move Palanga to LTN because its using a STN based a/c but KUN was simple.
So STN has lost two routes to LTN firstly CPH now KUN in my view unnecessarily
but who knows what and how Ryanair thinks.
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About time Orlando and Dubai have come back on the radar , here is hoping!!
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Question - Can I ask the question is there any plans to install any airbridges to either the existing or new pier?
London Luton Airport Answer -
On our radar, lots of developments afoot, we'll let everyone know in due course as things are confirmed.
London Luton Airport Answer -
On our radar, lots of developments afoot, we'll let everyone know in due course as things are confirmed.
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That sounds like a sort of yes but I guess they can't say too much at the moment. It would tie in nicely with the tender request I spotted a couple of weeks ago.
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Bridge over Delta
Considering the height of the existing pier above the east apron and Delta a bridge over Delta could be the best option both from an operational and cost point of view.
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Let me get this right... Ryanair dropped LTN-KUN in favour of LTN-VNO to compete more directly with Wizz. In response, Wizz announced their own LTN-KUN service, replacing Ryanair and becoming the only other scheduled airline at KUN. Now Ryanair is swapping STN-KUN to LTN in response to Wizz?!
In the meantime Wizz announced LTN-Palanga which has recently been followed by Ryanair announcing Palanga as well but from STN!
In the meantime Wizz announced LTN-Palanga which has recently been followed by Ryanair announcing Palanga as well but from STN!
As for Palanga and Wizz move to Kaunas there are rumours that the new pricing structure of Lithuanian airports (now under common management) will give discounts to airlines that operate to all 3 airports (VNO,KUN and PLQ). Sadly SQQ belongs to local council and is not included.