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Old 15th Sep 2015, 16:31
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I saw on the El Al UK Facebook page a while back one irate El Al passenger make a complaint, later converted to an official complaint, after waiting over 90 minutes for his bags.

I don't know how much the airport values El Al's presence at Luton but I got the impression they saw it as a bit of a "trophy" carrier and it must be a worry for the airport if a full-service airline is receiving such poor service from the ground handlers.

They are perfectly capable of providing a good service if the airline pays for it. Last summer Swissport/Servisair employed a young man named Jon who was great and really enthusiastic but I don't think he was there this summer.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 18:07
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
Oh you poor thing Cloud1 suicidal because of a wait for bags and flooding problems so it took you a far longer time than you expected. That is the problem with people in the UK today everybody thinks it will all work just like that 24 hours a day seven days a week and nothing can possibly go wrong like the car not starting one morning - what shall I do! Think yourself lucky how about the BA passengers leaving Heathrow for Europe last week and finding no luggage on arrival at their destination.
Yes I would be if I was forced to stay at the airport because of continual infrastructure deficiencies or incompetence. Whilst your sarcastic and arrogant reply leads me to question your role at Luton - certainly sounds like a Management sort of response to me - I should tell you that I do become a bit pi**ed off when I take a 5 hour flight, landing early hours of the morning and then have to wait an hour or more to get my bag. I do not think it unreasonable to expect baggage - that needs to travel just a few meters - to arrive fairly promptly.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 18:39
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Definitely not management. I would be hacked off as well, had it happened to me at Gatwick, but surely not suicidal tendencies. Sorry to be pedantic but it is METRES - meters are for seeing how much gas and electric you have used and paying for car parking!
Back to real aviation matters a number of extra Israel flights today - Jewish New Year - so expect some more later in the week with Yom Kippur just round the corner. Also a number of football related charters.
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Old 15th Sep 2015, 21:01
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The flights were for Tel Aviv fans who are facing Chelsea tommorow night. These extra flights should start need week.
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Old 16th Sep 2015, 18:10
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AUGUST PASSENGER STATISTICS

A total of 1,366,850 passengers passed through the airport in August 2015 a rise of 16.1 per cent on August last year. The rolling 12 month figure is 11,564,246 up 13.3 per cent.
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 11:58
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EasyJet growth at LTN

@Itchin McCrevis,

During 2014 EasyJet had 15 A/C. This year they have 18, next year will be 19 can you see the growth in aircraft fleet at LTN?

25 A/C each on average operating 7 rotations each day over 364 days at average load might scrape to achieve the planned 9 million pax per annum at minimum? What ever the fleet growth it has to be higher than 25?

Either way I welcome their growth at LTN.
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 13:37
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Don't forget the new Wizz order for 110 A321's that will replace much of their fleet. At 230 seats each they could keep their present movements at Luton and still have more seats available.
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 17:26
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Also a number of football related charters
And a good number of Rugby World Cup charters as well for Twickers, Wembley, Olympic & MK Stadium games.

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Old 17th Sep 2015, 20:46
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Wizzair have today announced that the Warsaw route will increase to 26 times a week, which works out to be four flights a day on most days of the week from May...

All of these are A320 flights in May... However when you check September two of the four flights a day have been upgraded to A321, adding an additional 54 seats on each on these flights, in each direction.

Additionally, just taking another look at their booking engine shows three of the five Budapest flights are also being upgraded to the A321, but this is showing for May.

The airline is truely upgading the capacity on these routes and not cutting back on frequencies, just because they are using a larger aircraft.

Just the Warsaw and Budapest routes alone, by upgrading to the A321 will add 540 extra seats a day, when you take into account these flights operating five times a day there and back!

(I only checked these two routes, there might be even more A321's next year from other Wizz bases?!)
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Old 17th Sep 2015, 21:03
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With mass migration to the UK continuing I can't see why 4 returns a day doesn't eventually become 6 returns a day or more as the demand is clearly there.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 00:02
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A321

How many A321 stands does Luton have, I know some cannot accommodate these? More use of the piers for Wizzair I think?
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 05:11
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Looking at an Airbus information page it would appear that A318/319/320/321 are all classed as Code C as far as stands are concerned.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 06:49
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I found this:
4x Size 5 (A300, B767)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321)
6 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets)
3 x Size 2b (up to A320)
5 x Size 2a (up to A319/B737 without winglets)
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 07:11
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I see what you mean about the Rugby charters Pabely. Drop and go so no problems about stands.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 07:25
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I think some of those stands are set to be squeezed a little like the 6 stands on the eastern apron will become 8 stands with just a few feet added to the width of the apron. The hangar line is also going to be remarked up.

I have seen that list produced by pabely before although I can't find it now but I thought aircraft are given a code to denote their size and so is the stand. Even Luton's own publications talk about code C aircraft being most prevalent at Luton.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 12:26
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Redevelopment weekly update

The apron fronting Signature hangar 65 has now been also fenced off and has become landside as works starts to demolish this second hangar. With the loss of this apron and part of the North West Corner the engine run up bay was pressed into service as an additional apron with 7 biz jets parked there on Thursday.


Easyjet’s former HQ together with land opposite the Ibis Hotel has been pressed into service as a temporary storage facility for Priority Parking. Up until now they have used part of the short term car park that is the closest to taxiway Delta. This strip of land by the fence is set to become the exit route from the drop off zone and the entry route to the short term and multistory car park. As of Friday most of the cars in this area and the staff car park by the south apron have left so work should be starting soon on this new road.





A temporary alternate route has been created from the drop off area to the terminal via the old taxi rank. As yet no permanent work has taken place in the CTA


A general view taken last week before work started in the area around the new bus station.

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 12:50
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LTNMAN.

Am I wrong to think that something will have to give at LTN with all the airline expansion as the quieter landing slots used by bizz jets and stands at present get filled with airliners.

Biz jets will get squeezed out..it that the likely scenario ?

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 13:22
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nigel - which pays higher fees and which is more profitable to the airport ? A biz jet or an A320 ?
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 13:25
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Biz jets will get squeezed out..it that the likely scenario?
I have been saying that for a long time. Signatures new apron next to the Gulfstream hangar is no substitute for stands 16 and 17. The South Stands are set to become bused terminal stands and the redevelopment plans show both of Landmarks new aprons as 3 airline stands, which is where I think the 2026 date for completion comes into play as I suspect that is when the lease runs out on those stands but that is only speculation on my part.

As the years have passed light aircraft disappeared from the Luton scene and I suspect that biz jet traffic will end up being reduced due to a lack of parking at some point in the future unless new aprons are built just for them but Signiture is showing its commitment to Luton and must have had discussions about Luton's future plans before spending millions on its new FBO. Also while stands 16 and 17 go back to Luton next year if the airport don't require them then they can still be used for biz jets except the airport would get the parking fees.

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 13:40
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It's not just Warsaw flights that Wizz are growing next summer. In recent weeks they have announced:

From 27th March Sofia will increase from 18 to 21 per week
From 20th May Bucharest will increase from 21 to 26 per week
From 20th May Timisoara will increase from 5 to 7 per week
From 13th May Warsaw will increase from 23 to 26 per week.
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