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Old 13th Feb 2013, 18:33
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The 02.00 ex Doha would arrive BHX early morning and depart about 9-10am arriving back in Doha around 7-8pm local their time. If this happened tomorrow it would connect with Amritsar, Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, Goa, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Kochi, Islamabad, Lahore, Peshawar, Bangkok, Dammam, Dubai, Bahrain, Yangoon, Kuala Lumpur and Colombo.

An afternoon departure from BHX would connect with Melbourne, Maldives, Mahe, Jo'burg, Shanghai, Singapore, Bangkok, Delhi, Narita, Dhaka, Nairobi, Perth, Hong Kong. Seoule and Manila plus others.

Most are covered by EK, TK, KL, LH and LX but I could see QR eventually taking a share.

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Monarch has reduced BHX-MUC to 3/7 (Sunday flights are gone) for the May-October period.
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There are lots a small changes going on at present, Sunday has seen quite a few changes with GIB moving from Saturday and then is out all day 06.35 back at 21.35.

Rome changes to morning, the second AGP after ACE.

This explains how they have added an extra SSH on a Saturday by sifting GIB to Sunday.

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Three daily on Amsterdam in the week

SAS

Mainly 738's

FR

Extra Malaga a week in August and Faro I believe but will confirm

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"Yangoon"
QR have increased their flights to Yangon (RGN) from 3 flights a week to daily as they have been filling their onward 319ER.
Myanmar is seen as the "must see" destination and currently they are the only European/ME carrier flying into Yangon.
Their 09.40 LHR flight connects, as would a BHX morning flight, with less than a 2 hour connection in Doha.
(maybe EK will jump in next)
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TK are in the process off negotiating existing bi-laterals with the Indian government to increase services; if all goes well BOM and DEL will go double daily and there are plans to add five more Indian destinations including ATQ. Would be good for BHX to be linked to ATQ with a legacy carrier.
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BURMA (MYNAMAR

A bit off aviation topic but if you can visit Burma soon do so before it gets busy again. It is a wonderful country and the people are so friendly and welcoming. Was there end of 2011 but on a cruise!
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Myanmar/QR

I will keep it on aviation topic-I have been visiting for 15 years and have flown some 50+ sectors in ATR's with most of the airlines in the country-loads of fun flying into tiny exWW2 airstrips.Great people,lovely country & I hope that QR start up from BHX before my next trip in early 2014 so I can try the airline and the connection to RGN.
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Went down BHX today to see someone off - they do need an indoor viewing area which both passengers & non-passengers can use.

And regarding the runway works, couldn't really make out much progress but I'm sure they would be getting somewhere.
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Whilst I absolutely agree it would be good to have such a viewing area, that just isn't what we do in the UK - look at all the indoor viewing areas, or land side terminal views there are in the UK - I'm struggling to think of many, certainly any which are any use.

Contrast with Germany and Switzerland.

If BHX has the money available to spend, I would say there are plenty of more worthwhile projects that could be undertaken to improve the passenger experience.
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If you remember, before they merged the two terminals together, there was an area upstairs (which is now part of departures) where you could view aircraft from the windows - I remember them being quite crowded. I know the aviation experience was very underused.

On another note, it appears Air Transat which was operating a flight from Calgary enroute to LGW diverted into BHX this morning. It was heading towards the south then circled back to BHX looking at Flight Radar.

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BHX Viewing Area

I remember the original proper viewing area at BHX from the 80's. As I recall it was on the 1st/2nd floor, was long and narrow with a very 80's black and orange colour scheme. The room may well still be there, but presumably was rendered useless when the terminal was expanded towards the apron.

It's a pity there's no such facility available now. I remember going with the family to events at the NEC and my dad taking me on Maglev to the viewing gallery for a bit when we had had enough of the NEC. Happy days...
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there was an area upstairs (which is now part of departures) where you could view aircraft from the windows
You're right, but I think you'll find that was essentially the connection between the two terminals, which, if it hadn't been glazed front and back would have been pretty dingy. The effect of providing a viewing area was more an accident of architecture than a deliberate attempt to provide a veiwing area, and that spotted glass made it awful to look through, and impossible to photograph through!

Bring back the buffet in the old terminal (that's the 1939 one) but leave out the terrible catering. Planeaddict, you won't remember that!!!
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January 2013 Passenger figures down 1%

Source: CAA

Without snow closures these would have probably been up: -

2013 496324 (plus Enfidha to be added) - rolling year 8911205 +3.8%
2012 501583
2011 522765
2010 521185
2009 561604

ATM's 5391 -4.1% Rolling year 83830 +.4

Some of the routes look poor but various reasons for this, mainly reduced frequency of course.

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Helsinki?

Any ideas?

Reported that fares are being loaded into GDS.

As far as I can see Finnair don't normally offer anything to BHX although in theory the BE/BA Dusseldorf is possible as an alternative to the usual Star and Skyteam offering I think.

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1. Runway extension work... they are now laying the concrete base for the road, very slow process.

Also digging out a new carriageway close to the old clock pub. This forms part of the dedicated lane for centro into the airport.

2. BHX viewing. Unfortunately UK airports are all about making a profit. The viewing facility at BHX,had many of the views blocked by the new pier. It was often pretty deserted towards the end,and cost more to keep open and didn't make anything.

If there was big demand and such a facility could make money they would open one.Sadly I think those days are over.

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Bring back the buffet in the old terminal (that's the 1939 one) but leave out the terrible catering. Planeaddict, you won't remember that!!!
I certainly will not!

Runway extension work... they are now laying the concrete base for the road, very slow process.

Also digging out a new carriageway close to the old clock pub. This forms part of the dedicated lane for centro into the airport.
So laying the concrete base for the road, is that going to take the most time? From what I have read, the A45 diversion will be done by July/August time. As for the runway, it'll be completed by autumn but operational next year.

BHX viewing. Unfortunately UK airports are all about making a profit. The viewing facility at BHX,had many of the views blocked by the new pier. It was often pretty deserted towards the end,and cost more to keep open and didn't make anything.

If there was big demand and such a facility could make money they would open one.Sadly I think those days are over.
Yeah - I remember a while back someone had an idea of a viewing area in Sheldon Country Park but got rejected. I think somewhere near the runway at the end of the Long Stay Car Park would work as a special facility, or somewhere near that TriStar Hotel. As with inside, unless there is a suitable area which is good for viewing, without the pier blocking most views, it probably won't happen. It makes sense why they closed it now.
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 18:04
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Nigel

It's probably best to ignore the ramblings of this Plane Addict character as many of us on this forum do.

He doesn't make sense and serves only as an irritant.

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Just looking at Ryanair's schedule going forwards and I'm struggling to see how they will stand up to 6 daily rotations from Aer Lingus. If your not an early bird and 0755 is no use to you then your next option is 1650 (what happened to the rest of the day!), next option 2225 which doesn't hit DUB till 2330. Its perhaps good for day returns, but coming back from DUB at 2035 is rather late for business users, between 1700 and 2030 Aer Lingus will offer 3 options back.
The bargain hungry customer will always put up with a certain amount time wise but they don't seem to be helping themselves.
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Laasjet,

Yes must admit a bit baffled by Planeaddicts comments, not quite sure the points hes trying to make ?

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Nigel

There is a new building going up to the right of the Tristar Hotel which would make an excellent viewing platform ?

No one including you has mentioned it !

Any idea what it is ??

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