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Old 31st May 2013, 11:38
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Thanks-I presume the GRO flights will no longer operate through the winter schedule,only BCN from BHX.
Two years ago the GRO/BHX summer flights were 4xweekly,last year 3xweekly and now down to twice weekly for this year (others to BCN) and whilst the loads were always good the yields cannot have been up to scratch-hence the very high fares on the twice weekly flights this year.
There could be a move to move more BHX flights from GRO to BCN next year which makes North Catalonia without flights from the Midlands-unless you fly into Perpignan which is nearer than Barcelona.

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Have we heard anything from Air India yet? If they are starting in August then it should be bookable.

Apparently the A45 should be done this month. The road itself is near to completion, but everything else around it needs to be cleared up (the remaining sand etc).
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Nothing is ever nailed at BHX until it lands ,so don't expect AI until that happens.

One of their 787s went into LHR earlier today though.

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One of their 787s went into LHR earlier today though
The lunchtime flight, AI115 / 116 has finally had the ULR B777-237LR replaced by a more sensible daily B787-8. It started quite soon after services resumed and shares the apron with the QR B787-8 at the same time.

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New Services this week

After a decent weekend with Neos 767 subbing for ZB, Titan 767 subbing for Thomson, Air Berlin A332 and Air Europa Venice charters it is back to reality with business as usual.

BHX- Billund is back tomorrow with a new bmi regional service filling the spare morning slot for the E145 departing BHX at 07.00.

Olympic Holidays have their first dedicated flight of the season but not as expected with Small Planet but Enter Air Boeing 737-400.

From Tuesday Ryanair increase Barcelona to six a week for a few months and Thursday sees LDY increase to five a week until September.

Aer Lingus Regional also operate the first early morning departure at 07.15 on the new ATR72-600 making six dublin flights and ten EI in total.

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Not sure if posted already but Ryanair have added a 4th daily Thursday flight to DUB all of a sudden.

Departs Dublin 09.05
Departs Birmingham 10.35

Seems only for month of June.
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Not posted yet as I only spotted it on the BHX website last night and the reason it stops is that it turns into Perpignan in July and August but yet to reappear fro September.

This also makes a staggering 10 departures to Dublin on Thursday!

This Thursday also sees Ryanair add an extra Barcelona and LDY. Almost a silent relationship between BHX & FR these days very little is heard with the odd e-mail here and there from the airport promoting some FR services.

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As May and June are traditionally the "low season" months for EK I could not help noticing the lack of downgrades this year compared to last. From 1/5/2012 - 5/6/2012 I counted around 21 three class 77W/772ER's (346/354/360/364 seat aircraft) but this year just 4. Have EK finally turned the corner at BHX? I suppose the May stats will give a better idea.

However I am sure figures will decrease as Ramadan is not far off and they do fade away for period.

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This also makes a staggering 10 departures to Dublin on Thursday!

Plenty of profit to be made there then?.....not!
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Aer Lingus

Keeping on the theme of Ireland - the EI Regional Dublin frequencies have been added for winter making six a day except the Saturday night-stop does not operate but more importantly neither does Knock by the look of it.

Times are as follows with the BHX departure time first

07,15 - 11.20 AT72 daily ex Sun outbound

08.25 - 07.50 A320 daily

11.45 - 17.20 AT72 daily

15.15 - 14.40 A320 daily

17.45 - 21.10 AT72 daily ex Saturday inbound

19.50 - 19.10 A320 daily

Cork - Winter

08.50 - 08.15 AT72 daily
17.00 - 16.30 AT72 daily

Shannon

17.10 - 16.45 AT42 Daily (13.00-12.35 Saturday)

Net increase of four movements most days on winter 2012/3

To add balance Ryanair is still showing 20 weekly departures for winter 2013/4

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OP just to clarify

Is the Knock service ceasing for the Winter Season ?

CAT III

(PS Vested interest here.) I ave used the Airport Web site but its too slow to be usable. Updated - Yes I tried a Nov booking no flights available.

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I can't be certain but the rest of the EI Regional schedule appears to be bookable.

At present the Knock is operated by the Shannon aircraft and this winter Shannon is back to a straight turnaround at tea-time which was the time it produced decent load factors in the past and no doubt yields.

I was hoping that Knock would have been incorporated by utilising the new EIR based Dublin ATR72 at low frequency rather than the usual daily service but it seems that idea is not on the table.

The main problem is probably the Ryanair service from East Mids which is four times a week and fares which will eventually be half that of EI's (not at the moment).

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Thank you: I will be sorry to see that one go - But FR re EMA yes -money talks loud.

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NOC could well re-appear out of the schedule woodwork at EIR. SNN could potentially be re-timed I'm sure thats happened on more than one occasion, its not unknown for winter schedules to roll out in July.
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This also makes a staggering 10 departures to Dublin on Thursday!

Plenty of profit to be made there then?.....not!
Surely whole advantage of DUB<>BHX is it is a quick rotation with stead demand at either end year round. Yields might not be great but if there's a spare couple of hours in the day, the a/c might aswell be used, especially as overland UK flights are a distant memory for FR.
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BHX 2nd Runway back on the table ?

Birmingham Airport expected to announce second runway | Central - ITV News
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As long ago as 2007, Birmingham Airport said it wanted to expand the current runway
That's not the history as I remember it. I don't recall BHX having any interest in a second runway (as there was just no need for it), until the 2003 White Paper started getting airport to think about 30 year master plans.

At that point, a 2nd runway was added in, and the phantom Rugby Airport was brought along for the same reasons now being argued for this new runway, namely to act as overflow for London.

Rugby Airport was a daft proposal no airline wanted, and the current airport is nowhere near filling even its current terminal capacity, let alone the potential capacity it could expand to with an additional terminal and optimal use of its current runway.

Then a new runway would have been SW of the current site, now they are saying a new terminal could go around the HS2 station, and a runway could go to the east. Just where exactly?

I thought we did all the fooling around at the start of April, not June.
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Jaibird.

Re BHX 2nd runway you are bang on.

Devised 2 runway plan 2003, and I have an Evening Mail cutting showing the plans from 2005.

Can someone explain exactly where this new 2013 plan for the 2nd runway would go, if its over by the proposed HS2 means will have to be the other side of the motorway , which is nearly a mile from the airports current site ?

I must be getting it wrong ?

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nearly a mile from the airports current site ?
Well in many other airports (esp USA), that would be perfect for a wide spaced parallel runway as there would just be fields in between.

I can just about work out where you might get a runway in there, but how the hell would you get a taxiway to link them together?

Otherwise, this is not a second runway, it is a completely new airport.
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Jai bird.

Well yes seems that way, as they are talking of a new terminal as well.

So what happens to the new MAEL ! ?

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More details of the plans to be announced tomorrow !

The existing terminal, runway and MAEL hangar would stay.

But a new terminal is planned alongside the HS2 rail station which is a probably a mile from the existing site and the other side of the M42 !

BHX did stress that these plans are very long term !
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