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that we'll see the emergence of a commercial arrangement which enables connections.
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I think this is a sure sign that EIR's days are numbered at SEN, which is a shame as pax numbers have been increasing and the route now seems to be exclusively 72s.
It is interesting though for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as noted, this appears to be on BE metal rather than Stobart Air. Secondly, it is a route also to be operated from LCY which shows a willingness by BE to operate from both; many said BE at LCY killed off any hope of BE at SEN. So, it is quite feasible that EDI and possibly BHD could follow. Possibly also the PSO to Dundee, unless the rules stipulated only STN could be used.
I can also see them doing JER if EZY do call it a day at the end of the summer
It is interesting though for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as noted, this appears to be on BE metal rather than Stobart Air. Secondly, it is a route also to be operated from LCY which shows a willingness by BE to operate from both; many said BE at LCY killed off any hope of BE at SEN. So, it is quite feasible that EDI and possibly BHD could follow. Possibly also the PSO to Dundee, unless the rules stipulated only STN could be used.
I can also see them doing JER if EZY do call it a day at the end of the summer
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SEN website strikes again!! Thomson/First Choice showing as once a week for Winter 2014/15. Doesn't look like it from the Thomson/First Choice booking site. Wake up airport website!
As a Flybe route SEN-DUB also opens up the possibility of through connections with the six new European routes. I must say that I am very surprised at this move if it really is a total replacement for the EIR operation.
Edit: I see that their connection timetable does indeed show RNS-SEN-DUB and perhaps others may appear.
Edit: I see that their connection timetable does indeed show RNS-SEN-DUB and perhaps others may appear.
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Flybe to take over Dublin and drop to 1 daily from winter season. Dash 8 based in SOU operating the flights.
Wonder will EIR drop or compete?
Wonder will EIR drop or compete?
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There is an interview with Mr. Roger Clements -MD of London Southend Airport - in the print edition of todays Southend Echo newspaper. One interesting point that caught my eye - the interviewer states that three-quarters of passengers on the newly added flights last week were inbound from the European destinations.
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three-quarters of passengers on the newly added flights last week were inbound from the European destinations.
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I am sure Stobart Air team have looked carefully at cities/regions that have a good demand for a London connection. I hope that local people will also want to visit some of the new destinations, but of course they have a lesser demand than London. If I was a travel agent again, I would really be pushing these routes helping people who don't/can't book hotels online, with suggestions and telling them what to see there. It's easy to get some lovely big posters from the various tourist offices to stick up on the wall!
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Would be a shame to see EIR go, as previously mentioned, with the increase in pax and the use of the larger ATR72. Plus to drop down from 3x daily to no flights at all seems like very little effort has been made to keep the connection going, not even 2 daily. Flybe start the following day (26th October) of the last current bookable flight (25th October) on the Aer Lingus website. On the other hand it is positive to see Flybe operating another route independent of Stobart Air. Maybe they can bring back WAT, BHD or EDI?
Any other airline news?
Any other airline news?
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FlyBe do say on their website that some flights are operated by their franchise partners, but somebody at SEN needs to explain why the drop in the number of daily flights. This has been a rumour for quite a while but an email to me from Stobarts at SEN a few weeks ago said that Aer Lingus would continue. Someone is either telling me porkies or isn't in the know!
It would really be very bad news if EIR does abandon the SEN-DUB route as the through booking facility to Aer Lingus' US destinations will be lost, as will the current multiple daily flights which see some 60,000 ppa fly the route. I also cannot understand why Flybe should introduce a SEN-DUB service at the same time they start their LCY-DUB route, where they will already have to work hard against the existing competition. What exactly is the rationale for SEN-DUB against that backdrop?
Of course, there has not been any announcement that EIR will quit SEN-DUB so we must wait and see.
Of course, there has not been any announcement that EIR will quit SEN-DUB so we must wait and see.
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If it goes to a single daily flight it will of course be next to useless for business travellers. The time when I flew with EIR to JFK via Dublin there were a large number of business travellers on the flight, some of whom were apparently very regular passengers. I believe Flybe have stated that they see LCY as the business airport, and as Expressflight says it is puzzling that they should choose to open the route at the same time as launching from LCY.
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Could a code share be possible? With flybe operating the morning flight and stobart air/aer lingus the evening flight. With the possibility to do connecting flights on both the flybe as well as the aer lingus network.
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Flybe have not yet announced the DUB-SEN route while they have done so for the DUB-INV which begins on the same day.
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It really would be jolly good if the parties involved could make an unequivocal announcement about the future of the Dublin route (and its onward transatlantic connections) so that prospective passengers (me included!!) know exactly what the score is.
The SEN website still states that the Aer Lingus Regional service will continue "up to 3 times daily" during the coming Winter but the Aer Lingus website shows that the service will cease in late October. I can find no mention at all of the new 1 x daily Flybe Dublin service on the SEN website even though this has been bookable for a couple of days now.
Come on chaps - please let us know exactly what will be on offer this Winter for us Dublin-bound people. (Hopefully someone in the know at SEN is a PPRuNe reader!!).
The SEN website still states that the Aer Lingus Regional service will continue "up to 3 times daily" during the coming Winter but the Aer Lingus website shows that the service will cease in late October. I can find no mention at all of the new 1 x daily Flybe Dublin service on the SEN website even though this has been bookable for a couple of days now.
Come on chaps - please let us know exactly what will be on offer this Winter for us Dublin-bound people. (Hopefully someone in the know at SEN is a PPRuNe reader!!).
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Sad news that EI have called it a day on their SEN operation especially as it has been reported that they were meant to be doing really well.
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