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I see from the SEN website that there is an arrival from Dublin at 19:05 today but no corresponding departure. I assume that this will be the arrival of the FlyBe ATR-72 ready to start operations tomorrow.
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the Munster flight departed 10 mins late......arrived back 35 mins late..why? slow handling in Munster?...so it screws up the whole day schedule using one aeroplane....hopefully after a few days it will settle down.
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Quite a bit of media circus at the Münster end:
http://www.airportzentrale.de/flugha...heissen/33465/
FMO-London wieder im Programm: Wasserfontäne zur Begrüßung - Münstersche Zeitung
http://www.airportzentrale.de/flugha...heissen/33465/
FMO-London wieder im Programm: Wasserfontäne zur Begrüßung - Münstersche Zeitung
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Quite a bit of media circus at the Münster end:
Flughafen Münster/Osnabrück: ATR-72 von Flybe zum Erstflug nach London-Southend willkommen geheißen | airportzentrale.de
FMO-London wieder im Programm: Wasserfontäne zur Begrüßung - Münstersche Zeitung
Flughafen Münster/Osnabrück: ATR-72 von Flybe zum Erstflug nach London-Southend willkommen geheißen | airportzentrale.de
FMO-London wieder im Programm: Wasserfontäne zur Begrüßung - Münstersche Zeitung
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It's good to see some active marketing on the German side. Time will tell if Southend catches on as a London destination in German eyes; I remember a stream of Condor CV-240s and Viscounts, and LTU F-27s and F-28s flying in during the 60s bringing German tourists and students to London on day trips.....
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@Barling Magna: The (rather provincial) press around FMO jumps on any crumpet of news they might get from the airport, so not much "active" effort needed there.
FMO has a history of not so successful routes and airlines, with Jetisfaction & OLT Express the most widely known ones. The press was all too happy to report story after story about their plans.
FMO has a history of not so successful routes and airlines, with Jetisfaction & OLT Express the most widely known ones. The press was all too happy to report story after story about their plans.
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It is dubious to suggest that the failures of routes from Jetisfaction and OLT Express can really be attributed principally to FMO.
I understand that the passenger numbers carried on the inaugural FMO-SEN were very respectable.
I understand that the passenger numbers carried on the inaugural FMO-SEN were very respectable.
Every year between 2005 and 2008, Munster-Osnabruck managed between 1.54 and 1.6 million passengers - the consistency over a 4 year period suggests this was not a single good year.
In 2013, FMO managed 0.85 million passengers - ie passenger numbers are down 46 % per annum since 2008. Yes, per year - no seasonality involved. About 10 weeks ago, Cityjet dropped their London City route.
Yes I know about Air Berlin dropping FMO, but after such a decline, I'm not surprised that the local press in Munster are so keen to sing Southend's praises
In 2013, FMO managed 0.85 million passengers - ie passenger numbers are down 46 % per annum since 2008. Yes, per year - no seasonality involved. About 10 weeks ago, Cityjet dropped their London City route.
Yes I know about Air Berlin dropping FMO, but after such a decline, I'm not surprised that the local press in Munster are so keen to sing Southend's praises
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Fair comment. Presumably the closure of Air Berlin base constitutes the majority of the decline. Hopefully this route will be a success for all parties. As noted previously, it would appear there is some way to go.
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my post was not intended at all to make a link between FMO and airline success! Just as a fact about the FMO media environment: They jump onto anything airport related, and do so in an unreflected manner even for the most dubious ventures (Jetisfaction).
The only small point I meant to raise was: It requires no (marketing) effort to get the FMO media aboard. Very excitable lot when it comes to their airport.
my post was not intended at all to make a link between FMO and airline success! Just as a fact about the FMO media environment: They jump onto anything airport related, and do so in an unreflected manner even for the most dubious ventures (Jetisfaction).
The only small point I meant to raise was: It requires no (marketing) effort to get the FMO media aboard. Very excitable lot when it comes to their airport.
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Rennes airport
I was disappointed to see today that when I looked at the Rennes airport website, it listed all the arrivals/departures times, etc, but no mention of the Southend flight, only Flybe from SOU. On the airlines routes news it didn't mention Southend. Only when you look at the booking search area, it comes up as Southend-on-Sea and not London. If I am looking at the best "live" website for Rennes airport then Stobart/Flybe really ought to sort this out quickly. I am sure in negotiations the management of Rennes would have pushed to get a London route, but not to update their website is disgraceful.
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Very weird....I must have looked at an old version.
Indeed, the Southend flights were shown today, and mentioned in their advertising to London.
However, the booking section, you still wont find Southend under "London Southend".
Very weird....I must have looked at an old version.
Indeed, the Southend flights were shown today, and mentioned in their advertising to London.
However, the booking section, you still wont find Southend under "London Southend".
Nice one LTNman.
Seriously though it's the effective marketing of these six new routes that will be crucial to their success in my view. As an example, the extensive coverage that Caen and Normandy have received in the past couple of days as a result of the D-Day 70th Anniversary commemorations needs to be carried through into the marketing campaign for that route within the UK.
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When I viewed the official Rennes Airport site juast now it says Londres/Southend in every reference and selecting "London, all airports" in the drop-down menu of the booking section it shows the Londres/Southend flights. It all looks fine to me.
A number of websites still don't list SEN under London airports, including TripAdvisor, and that's something the SEN commercial people ought to be continuously seeking to rectify.
Seriously though it's the effective marketing of these six new routes that will be crucial to their success in my view. As an example, the extensive coverage that Caen and Normandy have received in the past couple of days as a result of the D-Day 70th Anniversary commemorations needs to be carried through into the marketing campaign for that route within the UK.
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When I viewed the official Rennes Airport site juast now it says Londres/Southend in every reference and selecting "London, all airports" in the drop-down menu of the booking section it shows the Londres/Southend flights. It all looks fine to me.
A number of websites still don't list SEN under London airports, including TripAdvisor, and that's something the SEN commercial people ought to be continuously seeking to rectify.
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LTN man....stop it.....I know you hate SEN.
stay away.
I still couldn't find LON-SEN in the drop downs.
For now, I keep away....... I truly hope all the 6 routes prove profitable.
stay away.
I still couldn't find LON-SEN in the drop downs.
For now, I keep away....... I truly hope all the 6 routes prove profitable.
tophat27dt
No, SEN isn't in the dropdown list but if you select 'London all airports' the third-party booking website shows the RNS-SEN flights. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my last post.
No, SEN isn't in the dropdown list but if you select 'London all airports' the third-party booking website shows the RNS-SEN flights. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my last post.