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The routes I mentioned are no further than London to Israel or Egypt which are flown regularly by 738s. In fact Westjet does St Johns to LGW with the 700 series. So it is possible.
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Does it really matter?
IMHO it does not matter what the aircraft or future aircraft CAN do, it is what is commercially viable. Forget ETOPS and different variants it's a case of is it worth it.
Ryanair thrive on been able to do deals with airports and region, i.e. In 5 years we can deliver 1 million pax if you give us this price. It usually is not destination reliant, so FR will try our (for example) a STN route, if that doesn't work try another and another, until they find the right combination of routes that work.
As soon as you limit your opportunities (such as transatlantic on a 738/MAX) you can't offer the same deals, as you no longer have 80+ options for routes, you have maybe 5 if your lucky.
So let's start with commercially viable rather than what's operationally possible before thinking that TA will happen anytime soon
Ryanair thrive on been able to do deals with airports and region, i.e. In 5 years we can deliver 1 million pax if you give us this price. It usually is not destination reliant, so FR will try our (for example) a STN route, if that doesn't work try another and another, until they find the right combination of routes that work.
As soon as you limit your opportunities (such as transatlantic on a 738/MAX) you can't offer the same deals, as you no longer have 80+ options for routes, you have maybe 5 if your lucky.
So let's start with commercially viable rather than what's operationally possible before thinking that TA will happen anytime soon
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Very big win in EU courts for Ryanair.
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Very big win in EU courts for Ryanair.
How many aircraft did Ryanair ground during winter 2016/2017 that were not undergoing maintenance ?
How many new aircraft are due to be delivered to Ryanair between now and October 2017 ?
Finally, how well staffed are Ryanair ? Would they find crew have largely maxed out on hours for the year by October 2017, or would crew have plenty of remaining capacity ?
I'm wondering how able Ryanair would be (in theory) to throw lots of aircraft quickly at the Italian market in the form of a land grab, if either a liquidation or significant reduction in capacity of a competitor airline were to happen in late 2017.
How many new aircraft are due to be delivered to Ryanair between now and October 2017 ?
Finally, how well staffed are Ryanair ? Would they find crew have largely maxed out on hours for the year by October 2017, or would crew have plenty of remaining capacity ?
I'm wondering how able Ryanair would be (in theory) to throw lots of aircraft quickly at the Italian market in the form of a land grab, if either a liquidation or significant reduction in capacity of a competitor airline were to happen in late 2017.
Whether they would want to work is another question.
As Ryanair is Italy's largest airline then they are already a well known quantity so would expect that they could readily pick up the majority of the slack within EU easily.
80% of Alitalia's fleet 100 plus aircraft are EI- flagged i.e. Lease Co then would expect some interesting conversations could be occurring
14 A330-200 and 11 777-200 albeit dated aircraft does give someone some options were they to consider flying somewhat longer distances
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No B738's in Alitalia. To absorb those crews into a RYR venture would be a monumental training program. RYR have been reluctant in the past to recruit DEF/O's, and DEC's only under duress. The AZ culture & RYR culture are chalk & cheese. Good luck to both sides if they try to mix the two.
No B738's in Alitalia. To absorb those crews into a RYR venture would be a monumental training program. RYR have been reluctant in the past to recruit DEF/O's, and DEC's only under duress. The AZ culture & RYR culture are chalk & cheese. Good luck to both sides if they try to mix the two.
Also allows you assess the crews you have and deciding what you wish to keep and what you do not.
If decide want to use Airbus for long haul the have ready made flight crews.
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Racedo has a point - if Alitalia goes bust cut a deal with the Italian Govt to take over the shorthaul fleet and crews in a new subsid (with suitable Govt help of cour$e) then gradually dispose/replace the older aircraft & integrate fully with the main airline over several years.
Also allows MoL to get a better deal from MrB as he can smooth out any bumps in the vast order book he keeps with Seattle................
Also allows MoL to get a better deal from MrB as he can smooth out any bumps in the vast order book he keeps with Seattle................
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First connecting flights announced
Ryanair, Europe’s No 1 airline, today (17 May) launched its first connecting flights through Rome Fiumicino Airport, providing Ryanair customers with an expanded route choice, and the opportunity to book and transfer directly onto connecting Ryanair flights for the first time.
From today, Ryanair customers can:
Browse connecting Rome Fiumicino flight options on the Ryanair.com website
Book connecting flights on an initial 10 routes operating to/from Rome Fiumicino (with more to follow)
Connect to/from Alicante, Barcelona, Bari, Brussels, Catania, Comiso, Malta & Palermo via Rome
Transfer ‘airside’ onto connecting flights without having to go ‘landside’
Have checked-in baggage transferred through to the next flight to their final destination
Receive one booking reference for both flight bookings
- See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!
From today, Ryanair customers can:
Browse connecting Rome Fiumicino flight options on the Ryanair.com website
Book connecting flights on an initial 10 routes operating to/from Rome Fiumicino (with more to follow)
Connect to/from Alicante, Barcelona, Bari, Brussels, Catania, Comiso, Malta & Palermo via Rome
Transfer ‘airside’ onto connecting flights without having to go ‘landside’
Have checked-in baggage transferred through to the next flight to their final destination
Receive one booking reference for both flight bookings
- See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!
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Quote: We are also continuing our discussions with Aer Lingus and Norwegian – and other potential partners – with a view to launching connections with third party airlines later this year.”
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This new service under Year 4 of our “Always Getting Better” programme, will be rolled out across the entire Ryanair network, (with further Rome routes to be added in the coming weeks and months) as long as the Rome Fiumicino trial proves to be a success. - See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!
This new service under Year 4 of our “Always Getting Better” programme, will be rolled out across the entire Ryanair network, (with further Rome routes to be added in the coming weeks and months) as long as the Rome Fiumicino trial proves to be a success. - See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!
don't fly to Big airports,
Provide Seat reservations,
Offer Interconnecting flights
and various other reasons.
I've had a good look at the routes that Ryanair fly from Fiumicino (not Ciampino)
To be honest, I think demand for transfers on FR at FCO is likely to be a bit on the limited side. On the one hand this gives FR a somewhat gentle introduction to doing this on a commercial daily basis (good for an initial trial) but perhaps unlikely to generate much additional revenue until rolled out to other bases
To be honest, I think demand for transfers on FR at FCO is likely to be a bit on the limited side. On the one hand this gives FR a somewhat gentle introduction to doing this on a commercial daily basis (good for an initial trial) but perhaps unlikely to generate much additional revenue until rolled out to other bases
I've had a good look at the routes that Ryanair fly from Fiumicino (not Ciampino)
To be honest, I think demand for transfers on FR at FCO is likely to be a bit on the limited side. On the one hand this gives FR a somewhat gentle introduction to doing this on a commercial daily basis (good for an initial trial) but perhaps unlikely to generate much additional revenue until rolled out to other bases
To be honest, I think demand for transfers on FR at FCO is likely to be a bit on the limited side. On the one hand this gives FR a somewhat gentle introduction to doing this on a commercial daily basis (good for an initial trial) but perhaps unlikely to generate much additional revenue until rolled out to other bases
As said when first mentioned on here that if can make it successful in FCO then roll out elsewhere will be a breeze.