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Old 18th Apr 2017, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Callum Paterson
GLA has two aircraft based this summer.
Has that ever officially been announced?
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 16:15
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Yes, checked for GLA and there are two based based on timetable.

Thanks for the help, list updated - 384 aircrafts mapped to the bases

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Old 20th Apr 2017, 10:52
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I notice that Norwegian seem to be pretty active announcing new long haul routes from Europe
I know Ryanair do not have any 787s but I am surprised that after all the noise about long haul 10 years ago, Ryanair seem to be silent right now, particularly with the possibility of narrow body aircraft achieving transatlantic flights. At the least I would have expected maybe some noise about aircraft orders by now

Anyone know whether Ryanair intend to take a share of the LCC long haul market ?
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 18:15
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I notice that Norwegian seem to be pretty active announcing new long haul routes from Europe
I know Ryanair do not have any 787s but I am surprised that after all the noise about long haul 10 years ago, Ryanair seem to be silent right now, particularly with the possibility of narrow body aircraft achieving transatlantic flights. At the least I would have expected maybe some noise about aircraft orders by now

Anyone know whether Ryanair intend to take a share of the LCC long haul market ?

Ryanair are "sticking to the knitting" to coin the old phrase and being very clever about doing it.

Companys that take their eye off the ball and diversify into areas they claim they understand but don't tend to, losing shed loads of investors money while doing it.

A time will come when they do but at the moment the price war will be between Norwegian, IAG/AA, AF/KLM/Delta across North Atlantic.

Better to sit and watch them slug it out for a couple of years and loses millions while being ready to pick up the pieces and aircraft later on when everybody has fought themselves to a standstill and the bank accounts are all empty. Then when you enter nobody can fight you.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 18:26
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I was under the impression that Michael O'Leary has recently made it clear that he no longer has any transatlantic ambitions and he will putting the idea to bed. I know he has made several comments regarding transatlantic over the years but I think his last statement is genuine and I don't think we're actually see,Ryanair or any O'Leary offshoot going in that direction and instead concentrate on what it's best at.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 18:36
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Short haul is where it is at for Ryanair, at least with their own aircraft. They could in theory have a crack at what Norwegian are doing on the Eastern seaboard if they wanted to with the MAX.

It should be noted that Ryanair are only using the Norwegian API, just as any other 'travel agent', and using their new addition of connecting flights to work with their feed. Norwegian wont be selling onward connections on their platform for Ryanair flights.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 18:54
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I think that Norwegian are increasingly focusing on longhaul. From EDI this winter they've dropped Malaga and Tenerife, and Stockholm only runs until December 1st. That leaves Oslo, to be operated by the TA plane, and CPH. I am not sure whether yields were too low, given the competition, or whether they were deliberately trying not to compete with FR, if they were going to use them as a feeder (but if so, why keep CPH?)
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 14:13
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what about KBP? I saw the news about 4 new routes to Ukraine.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 17:55
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Lviv (LWO) starts in September and Kyiv (KBP) in October to and from STN and MAN respectively, Odessa and Kharkiv have not been given a start date as yet.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 18:17
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Mallorcaguy - has there been any mention in the Ukrainian press about opening routes to Odessa nd Kharkiv ? I had a look on Google but couldn't see anything - would be keen if you could post any links

I could see Odessa possibly working but even by Ryanair's open-minded standards, Kharkiv seems perhaps a bit exotic for FR.

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Old 21st Apr 2017, 22:08
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Is it transatlantic that's ruled out or long haul? E.g. London - St Johns and Dublin - Halifax would surely be doable without needing to overnight crews.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 09:29
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I'm sure Ryanair shareholders could never bite on the idea that the use of an aircraft on a Transatlantic route would be a wise capacity utilisation and profitability move for the company.
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Does the B737-800 series have the range for UK-CAN/US? Especially if a divert/alternative airport is needed? In the current FR configuration, it wouldn't be the most comfy of flights!
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 14:18
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Originally Posted by Alsacienne
Does the B737-800 series have the range for UK-CAN/US? Especially if a divert/alternative airport is needed? In the current FR configuration, it wouldn't be the most comfy of flights!

MOL has been clear that he doesn't view 738's as suitable for T/A flights................... wants bigger aircraft for that.

Wonder if Airbus offered him 30 A380's at right price would he go for it.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 15:11
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Wonder if Airbus offered him 30 A380's at right price would he go for it.

How to turn round an A380 in 25 minutes? Let the outbound passengers on at the front and watch as the push the inbound passengers off at the rear steps. Refuelling that fast might be a problem. There is already a squeeze on a 4 hour flight refuel.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 15:15
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I think that would be a definite no in my opinion regarding Ryanair purchasing any A380s let alone 30 aircraft regardless of how cheap a deal Airbus may offer.

O'Leary has clearly stated that he has abandoned any ambitions in flying long haul transatlantic and I can't see Ryanair attempting any other long haul market.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 15:42
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
How to turn round an A380 in 25 minutes? Let the outbound passengers on at the front and watch as the push the inbound passengers off at the rear steps. Refuelling that fast might be a problem. There is already a squeeze on a 4 hour flight refuel.
Why would they do that ?

Sadly this is another attempt at the "well they do it here so they have to do it everywhere mantra".

Ryanair have shown themselves to be ultra flexible in the way they deal with individual issues and adapt to them.

The people who oppose them bring out the old mantra time and time again.
It gets old.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 15:43
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Originally Posted by canberra97
I think that would be a definite no in my opinion regarding Ryanair purchasing any A380s let alone 30 aircraft regardless of how cheap a deal Airbus may offer.

O'Leary has clearly stated that he has abandoned any ambitions in flying long haul transatlantic and I can't see Ryanair attempting any other long haul market.

While they are no good deals on long haul aircraft was the point made.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 15:50
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Originally Posted by racedo
While they are no good deals on long haul aircraft was the point made.
Did you mean

While THERE are no good deals on long haul aircraft 'WHICH' was the point BEING made.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 19:17
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Originally Posted by canberra97
Did you mean

While THERE are no good deals on long haul aircraft 'WHICH' was the point BEING made.
Oh dear....

When you ask someone a question, there is generally a "?" at the end to indicate that is what you are doing.
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