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Old 7th Nov 2012, 11:28
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It was a friendly and constructive meeting, until the boss of EUClaim took the floor, accusing all and sundry of deception and ineptitude.
Correct me if wrong but aren't the equivalent of US bottom feeding Ambulance chasering lawyers ?
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 11:32
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They keep I believe 27% of any successful R261 claim they assist in.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 15:20
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They keep I believe 27% of any successful R261 claim they assist in.
Ambulance chasers was right.............
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 17:34
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Thick/ thin skin ....value for money

27% indeed seems a tad steep as a charge in the real world.

Though not of course in the unreal world of M O'L and his acolytes where customers (sic) are charged the princely sum of 40€ for having their boarding card printed [a charge declared by the Commercial Court in Barcelona on 22nd December 2010 to be legally null and void as well as "abusivo" which you can feed through your google translator for yourself if you are curious.]
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 18:09
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I am intrigued to see what they do to entice people into keeping the card.
How about diddly squat? Who paid who when each card was taken out? Normally, a bank would pay an affiliate fee for anyone bringing them customers, and knowing Ryanair they paid a licence fee to have their aircraft on the card.

Perhaps there was no fee paid as Raffaels were essentially doing Ryanair a "favour" because the £6 sign up fee was refunded.

Either way, small print will have no doubt said "we reserve the right to charge at any time", or maybe just "if the OFT tell us we have to charge, then we will - without twisting their arm, honest".

Any ideas on number of people who actually took up card? Percentage of bookings paid for using it?

MOL and his colleagues need to think more carefully about the things they say, stop shooting themselves in the foot, and start emphasising the things that they do well.
I think they think very carefully about what they say. Why do they shoot themselves in the foot? No publicity is bad publicity. They aren't bothered about the social snobs who think Ryanair are beneath them. They will never convert those types. As long as Ryanair marketing costs are well below those of their rivals, they have a key benefit of a couple of extra percentage points on margin, and in this industry, that counts for a lot.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 19:49
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Though not of course in the unreal world of M O'L and his acolytes where customers (sic) are charged the princely sum of 40€ for having their boarding card printed [a charge declared by the Commercial Court in Barcelona on 22nd December 2010 to be legally null and void as well as "abusivo" which you can feed through your google translator for yourself if you are curious
Ryanair today (11th Oct, 2011) welcomed the decision in the Barcelona Appeal Court, which ruled that Ryanair's boarding card reissue penalty is lawful and complies with Spanish and EU law. This final ruling overturns a lower Court finding that the boarding card reissue penalty did not comply with Spanish law.

Least if you going to claim stuff you get state the correct position as the original decision got slapped down in a higher court.
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Old 7th Nov 2012, 20:52
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@ jabird

You are right, they won't get those 'snobs' (your word) off legacy carriers and on to Ryanair with the sort of things that MOL comes out with. But Ryanair's expansion policy requires them to do exactly that, they have said as much themselves.

Being careful in the things that they say costs nothing. I can think of several other airlines who operate to a similar business model, but none of them set out in a way that actually discourages some people from even considering flying with them. And what is it that puts these people off? The publicity.

I think it would be very interesting to do a word association test with 'Ryanair', and measure the ratio of replies positive to negative.
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 05:45
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The most similar airline to Ryanair is Wizz Air. They carry millions of passengers. But they do not do those publicity stunts. The result - even in this forum ant this thread there are people who do not know them. They say - some airline started charging for carry on. But they do not remember Wizz Air name.
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 08:33
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Not sure if posted before or not:
Ryanair jets out of Turku | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi
@j636. Two weeks ago it was that way. Now we can hear something quite different. According to McNamara (quoted by Turun Sanomat yesterday):
  • Turku routes were quite a success and Ryanair was very satisfied with them
  • For Ryanair it was obvious the routes would continue
  • There is only one reason why Ryanair had to cancel all these routes: Finavia has risen the security charges, FR cannot accept that
  • Ryanair has contacted the Finnish authorities and informed that all routes will re-start if the charges in question return to the previous level
I´ve bothered to check what these fees are;
  • 1,00 EUR per pax before
  • 1,20 EUR per pax now.


Btw. Finavia did not rise these fees. The decision was made by Finnish Transport Safety Agency (Trafi).

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Old 8th Nov 2012, 10:01
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Liverpool 2013

Liverpool with have 7 or 8 aircarft there next summer with more routes planned.

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Old 8th Nov 2012, 11:56
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Word association

Have to say the only measure that matters is passengers, and lets face it FR know how to get those passengers on board , hard to see any short term change in the continued growth in bums on seats....just wish they were a wee bit nicer about it all .....
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 15:26
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A SNAPSHOT IN TIME: Ryanair's November Network :: Routesonline

Some intresting stats suprised DUB is still there second largest destionation and quiet a drop at some main European bases.
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Old 8th Nov 2012, 15:45
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Originally Posted by EI-A330-300
quite a drop at some main European bases.
I didn't expect Rome CIA to drop that much. Any explanation?
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 10:15
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Köln-Bonn to be announced as a new base on Tuesday. FR going to take on Germanwings (Lufthansa) on their home turf. Currently, they serve only Palma and Girona.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 11:14
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I'd also expect a new base when BER eventually opens.
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Old 9th Nov 2012, 12:07
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CIA figures

I didn't expect Rome CIA to drop that much. Any explanation?
CIA was closed for about ten days when the runway got partially new pavement, traffic was transferred to FCO during that time.
Not good for the statistics.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:06
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New Stansted route

The Irish low-cost carrier will begin flights from the Essex base on April 2 next year.

Spokeswoman Michelle Lowe said: “Ryanair is pleased to announce a new route from London Stansted to Dole located in the east of France between Dijon and Besancon on the Doubs river. “This new service will operate twice weekly on Tuesdays and Saturdays from April 2.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:25
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Dole

Should be a popular route as there are a lot of people on it already.....sorry
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 09:04
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I'm assuming the airport at Dijon, the main regional centre, is capable of supporting B737 operations.

Therefore, is Dole the new Angouleme ?
Ryanair flies there as long as they get plenty of "marketing support" from the local Govt. As soon as the commercial terms change, FR throws a hissy fit and walks off...
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 11:20
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Ryanair have already being flying from Porto to Dole for a couple of years.
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