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Old 21st Nov 2012, 14:39
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It is not always easy, even possible, to learn from the airline the real cause of any delay. That is necessary to make any claim correctly. I've heard from various friends on more than one occasion that ATC or weather was given as the reason for a diversion and/or subsequent delay: one in the case where the return flight a/c never arrived but diverted before making an approach or holding. They were stuck for 3 days and told it was weather and not the fault of the airline. I'm not sure if the court case has finished as they later discovered this reason not to be correct. Correct information is vital and powerful.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 16:10
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"Restructuring the debt" they call it in politics. EU has no choice but to restructure Greek debts, Ryanair agreed to do the same in relation to its agreement with Thessaloniki Tourism Organization. As a result the marketing support for 2012, still unpaid, will be reduced from 350,000 to 250,000 EUR and the flights can continue for the time-being. The negotiations concerning next year will follow.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 17:32
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The good times at BUD have come to an end. Third of routes to be cut over increase in landing and handling charges. Full details on Thursday.

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Old 21st Nov 2012, 18:08
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BUD

Yeah. Having sold tens of thousands extremely low fare tickets on BUD routes (as a costly marketing investment in a way), having built their position there, now we'll observe far too familiar reaction. Next dispute, disagreement, once again retreating, at least partially so far... somewhat chaotic approach.
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Old 21st Nov 2012, 18:13
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I wonder what Wizzair's reaction would be to that? I'd say probably very little if anything, they've grown quite a lot in BUD themselves and they to like the lowest landing fees so perhaps won't be too pleased themselves. I would say despite flying 3x daily, that the Stansted route will not be cut as the frequency is now on par with Wizzair's service to Luton and would probably want to keep their share of the London route.


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Routes to cut from 30 to 20, including the ending of:

Baden Baden
Birmingham
Dusseldorf
Malaga
Munich

Above destinations for the winter said to be "uneconomic".

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 11:20
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Routes to cut from 30 to 20, including the ending of:

Baden-Baden
Birmingham
Dusseldorf
Malaga
Munich
& Lübeck, Bologna, Oslo, Cracow, Thessaloniki.

3 based aircraft instead of 5, frequency cuts on 9 of the remaining flights.

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 19:47
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There is nor real direct overlap with any of those airports with Wizz, besides a good few of them are from airports which are not served by Wizz full stop.

The fact is some of those routes are getting axed not because of the charges, but because of the load factor was very low, I know Krakow was around 35% a good number of times, occasionally higher.

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 20:25
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BHX-BUD

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And back in the real world: -

BHX-BUD

Source of the passenger figures - CAA

April 2367 pax - average 148 per flight or 78%
May 2584 pax - average 144 per flight or 76%
June 2891 pax - average 161 per flight or 85%
July 2676 pax - average 167 per flight or 88%
August 3120 pax - average 173 per flight or 92%
September 2831 pax - average 157 per flight or 83%
October 2975 pax - average 165 per flight or 87%

Now if you said fares were low them I might agree but I am interested where you got 50% from. The figures above assume that all flights operated.

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 20:29
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Must be bad data I got, so apologies for that

The Krakow data is certainly correct though, couple of my friends used it and it was always very empty it's been discussed by others on a Polish forum saying pretty much the same thing
Ryanair: Koniec Krakw - Budapeszt (1) - Pasazer.com

Someone even remarked they saw the flight on occasions with no hold luggage at all!!

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 20:40
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BUD-KRK loads

DublinPole is absolutely right about BUD-KRK. Budapest airport publishes monthly data here: http://www.bud.hu/english/business-a...ines-9082.html

The average flown loads on BUD-KRK from February to October have been 36%, 48%, 54%, 50%, 44%, 36%, 37%, 37%, 44%. It's only a short hop, but with such low loads, Ryanair would need very decent yields in order for the route to be profitable.

I can also confirm OltonPete's figures for BHX-BUD. Loads certainly haven't been a problem on that route.

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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 21:30
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Budapest cuts

Cancellations and reduction from January 2013.
Cancelled routes already noted here.
Reductions on the routes:
- Barcelona (BCN)
- Brussels-Charleroi (CRL)
- Dublin (DUB)
- Madrid (MAD)
- Paris-Beauvais (BVA)
- Rome-Ciampino (CIA)
- Venice-Treviso (TSF)
- Warsaw-Modlin (WMI)
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Old 22nd Nov 2012, 23:11
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Certainly a big step towards "world leadership" mol promised in hungarian press in August.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 11:22
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BUD

Reductions on the routes:
Tampere 33% reduction as well.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 13:33
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Allright, they forget to mention that during the presentation then
Shots of the Powerpoint in this video:
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 14:35
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I love Hungarian language. I really do!
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 16:24
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Ryanair will return to Strasbourg. Yes, the same airport it quitted many, many years ago, remember?
September 01, 2003
Court subsidies verdict forces Ryanair to quit Strasbourg

Ryanair has suffered a blow to its European expansion strategy based on using smaller airports with low airline charges to contribute significantly to its low operating cost base. A French court has ruled in favour of an Air France claim that Strasbourg airport unfairly subsidised Ryanair flights. As a result, Ryanair will end its two daily flights from its London Stansted hub to Strasbourg on September 24 and instead fly to nearby Baden-Baden, 40km away in south-west Germany.
Two first destinations will be STN and Porto, from April 2013.

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Old 28th Nov 2012, 18:10
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Ryanair will return to Strasbourg. Yes, the same airport it quitted many, many years ago, remember?
Bescause AF through its BritAir subsidary bitched and FR got of grief for cancelling the route.

Funny when Britair cancelled London to Strasbourg the media were all quiet as were Prooners.
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 18:36
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Third new Ryanair route for Stansted already. Looking good for 2013 so far and hopefully many more new ones to come. I think if I remember correctly, there were 11 new ones for 2012 and only 3 were axed at Stansted.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 00:48
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Strasbourg

Is this due to an increase in capacity (either through a increase in STN / OPO based aircraft or via aircraft based elsewhere) or is it simply because other underperforming routes served by STN based aircraft have been culled / reduced instead ?

Went to Strasbourg (by train) several years ago - lovely place in the summer.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 08:41
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Ryanair is introducing a 2% credit card fee in addition to the £6 administration fee for all bookings made from tomorrow. This is to comply with the OFT ruling earlier this year which said airline fees must be more transparent.
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