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Oh no I am aware of Gil Thomson and I paid tribute to him further back in the thread in terms of a laser like focus working with people to promote Manchester Airport rather than the current fragmented MAG model.
This focus brought SQ, CX, AA et al but I think today's landscape is much more fragmented with less focus and certainly less talent. There was something of an aviation policy back in the day, not a great one mind but they had one.
This focus brought SQ, CX, AA et al but I think today's landscape is much more fragmented with less focus and certainly less talent. There was something of an aviation policy back in the day, not a great one mind but they had one.
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Delta winter14/15
It was initially reported that DL were upgrading their MAN-ATL service to a A332 this winter and then a further upgrade was announced to a B764.
On checking flights we have booked this side of Christmas, I found the a/c is now back to a B763, although dates I looked at in Feb. are still showing the 764.
It was initially reported that DL were upgrading their MAN-ATL service to a A332 this winter and then a further upgrade was announced to a B764.
On checking flights we have booked this side of Christmas, I found the a/c is now back to a B763, although dates I looked at in Feb. are still showing the 764.
Ref Delta winter 14/15. Our booking system now shows DL64/65 reduced to 5 weekly from 26Oct until 04Jan and on a 763. The no service days being Thu and Sun (ex MAN). Then from 05Jan it shows the flight operating daily on a 764.
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I was chatting to a family friend the other day who happens to be a training captain on the b777 for Saudia, who since retirement from flying duties has gotten into the management there. Naturally I asked about their Manchester service, the very mention of which caused a noticable wince. He said the route was doing very well and that it should never have been stopped in the first place. He says that when the route was originally operated the then station manager begged for a direct flight but was declined and hence the route failed. Now he said the intention is to increase to daily b777 flights late next year.
He also said some interesting things about the poor marketing of Saudia which he thinks is largely attitude based, and also a product of the 'jobs for the boys' mentality within the airline which sees non marketing professionals being put in charge of exactly that.
He also said some interesting things about the poor marketing of Saudia which he thinks is largely attitude based, and also a product of the 'jobs for the boys' mentality within the airline which sees non marketing professionals being put in charge of exactly that.
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Greater Manchester to strengthen bilateral trade with India, maybe ?
Greater Manchester to strengthen bilateral trade with India - Manchester Evening News
This perhaps is an example of being seen to be really innovative, (it is most welcome), BUT then when you scratch below the surface it all gets a wee bit flaky !
Its precisely what I was eluding to , 3/4 postings back !
The MP chairing this is from The Midlands, notwithstanding she may have "close ties with the Indian community" could we not have somebody from The North, eg Sir Howard Bernstein etc heading this up ?
Is she really going to put heart and soul into batting for us when her constituency is The Midlands ?
If direct flights to India are required will she be shouting for BHX, or Manchester, does that really work ?
It has to be talking shop for the North of England as whole, it has to be mega regional not micro regional, we need companies from across a wider swathe of the North Of England , to include Merseyside and South Yorkshire.
We keep getting initiatives from individual Cities Eg Liverpool #IFB2014, there was another in Leeds a month back, now we have one for "Greater Manchester", its about time The North started to think big as a region, by all means have Manchester at the epicentre of the impetus driving change but one City is not going to be enough to make a large difference and certainly not if the sum total of marketing is 10 lines in the M E N.
"Showcasing" is a good term, if all the parties attending here are not just there for a day at the Cricket and are passionate about this , maybe they could have done this in the US market by a piggyback on the MUFC / MCFC tour as I just mentioned.
Forget 109K in the stadium . the matches were also live on NBC and ESPN across the US and indeed carried across the World.
What an opportunity that was ........!
How many sporting events have you witnessed where initially the scene is set via a promo as to where the teams come from !
Where were are all these representatives whilst that was going on ?
It "appears" some key players are in attendance strengthening these ties, super...except there appears to be no reference to the Airport, if you are building ties with the one of the fastest growing economic powers on the planet surely you need the airport there ?
It may be represented as a part member of one of the other groups but c'mon it s/b leading the charge not batting as 12th man !
More fragmentation instead of a cohesive approach !
....as was said in last posting but one, Gil where are you now !
Greater Manchester to strengthen bilateral trade with India - Manchester Evening News
This perhaps is an example of being seen to be really innovative, (it is most welcome), BUT then when you scratch below the surface it all gets a wee bit flaky !
Its precisely what I was eluding to , 3/4 postings back !
The MP chairing this is from The Midlands, notwithstanding she may have "close ties with the Indian community" could we not have somebody from The North, eg Sir Howard Bernstein etc heading this up ?
Is she really going to put heart and soul into batting for us when her constituency is The Midlands ?
If direct flights to India are required will she be shouting for BHX, or Manchester, does that really work ?
It has to be talking shop for the North of England as whole, it has to be mega regional not micro regional, we need companies from across a wider swathe of the North Of England , to include Merseyside and South Yorkshire.
We keep getting initiatives from individual Cities Eg Liverpool #IFB2014, there was another in Leeds a month back, now we have one for "Greater Manchester", its about time The North started to think big as a region, by all means have Manchester at the epicentre of the impetus driving change but one City is not going to be enough to make a large difference and certainly not if the sum total of marketing is 10 lines in the M E N.
"Showcasing" is a good term, if all the parties attending here are not just there for a day at the Cricket and are passionate about this , maybe they could have done this in the US market by a piggyback on the MUFC / MCFC tour as I just mentioned.
Forget 109K in the stadium . the matches were also live on NBC and ESPN across the US and indeed carried across the World.
What an opportunity that was ........!
How many sporting events have you witnessed where initially the scene is set via a promo as to where the teams come from !
Where were are all these representatives whilst that was going on ?
It "appears" some key players are in attendance strengthening these ties, super...except there appears to be no reference to the Airport, if you are building ties with the one of the fastest growing economic powers on the planet surely you need the airport there ?
It may be represented as a part member of one of the other groups but c'mon it s/b leading the charge not batting as 12th man !
More fragmentation instead of a cohesive approach !
....as was said in last posting but one, Gil where are you now !
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Quoting logohu:
"Ref Delta winter 14/15. Our booking system now shows DL64/65 reduced to 5 weekly from 26Oct until 04Jan and on a 763"
Doesn't surprise me. So much for increased capacity this winter. We're lucky so far in that the flight is down to operate on the days we travel. As for a daily 764 from 4 Jan. let's wait and see, given what's happening with ORD and IAD in February/March, although DL does tend to serve a different market. I suppose an optimist might suggest the 764 is still planned later because of what's happening on ORD and IAD. Not a particularly encouraging development though for TATL from MAN this winter.
"Ref Delta winter 14/15. Our booking system now shows DL64/65 reduced to 5 weekly from 26Oct until 04Jan and on a 763"
Doesn't surprise me. So much for increased capacity this winter. We're lucky so far in that the flight is down to operate on the days we travel. As for a daily 764 from 4 Jan. let's wait and see, given what's happening with ORD and IAD in February/March, although DL does tend to serve a different market. I suppose an optimist might suggest the 764 is still planned later because of what's happening on ORD and IAD. Not a particularly encouraging development though for TATL from MAN this winter.
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Sure I saw an article last week (can't remember what in) saying Delta have made a sudden reversal on their B747 plans, with a number being withdrawn. From W14 a number of B763s and B777s are being moved from Atlantic ops to Pacific ops to replace the 747s. So, it's a surprise to see the B763 back on the MAN route for winter. Of course it could change again before then.
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Manchester business news and reviews from the Manchester Evening News team.
Talking about massive infastructure investment in North....hopefully good news as long as it's not electioneering. That said this is what Labour should have been advocating !
Certainly based on Radio 2 debate the midlanders are very very upset, maybe there are no votes in Birmingham ?
Sadly no mention of Manchester airport !
Ps Russia talking about response to EUROPE sanctions by stopping all Europe Asia over flights. It could only happen what Cathay about to start !
Talking about massive infastructure investment in North....hopefully good news as long as it's not electioneering. That said this is what Labour should have been advocating !
Certainly based on Radio 2 debate the midlanders are very very upset, maybe there are no votes in Birmingham ?
Sadly no mention of Manchester airport !
Ps Russia talking about response to EUROPE sanctions by stopping all Europe Asia over flights. It could only happen what Cathay about to start !
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You beat me to it Bagso. I couldn't spot a mention of airports either, even in Bernstein's comments. Predominantly about rail and roads.
I see that the 3 main party political leaders have pledged jointly to give the Scottish parliament more powers in the event of a 'No' vote, including on taxation. If that includes the iniquitous and damaging APD, then I'm certain the Scots would decide to abolish it or at least significantly reduce the rates, which could prove disastrous for long haul routes from MAN in particular, but also for NCL and even BHX. It would be reassuring to think that sustained pressure is being applied by MAN and North West business leaders on the Chancellor, not only regarding the present situation on APD but on the increased threat if Scotland is allowed to adopt its own policy.
I see that the 3 main party political leaders have pledged jointly to give the Scottish parliament more powers in the event of a 'No' vote, including on taxation. If that includes the iniquitous and damaging APD, then I'm certain the Scots would decide to abolish it or at least significantly reduce the rates, which could prove disastrous for long haul routes from MAN in particular, but also for NCL and even BHX. It would be reassuring to think that sustained pressure is being applied by MAN and North West business leaders on the Chancellor, not only regarding the present situation on APD but on the increased threat if Scotland is allowed to adopt its own policy.
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If direct flights to India are required will she be shouting for BHX, or Manchester, does that really work ?
Air India have today confirmed their BHX service will go daily from November
Air India Commits to Daily Services - Birmingham Airport
Air India have today confirmed their BHX service will go daily from November
Air India Commits to Daily Services - Birmingham Airport
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My daughter lives at Bredbury, under the MAN 23R flightpath, she just called me to say she'd seen the Qatar airways with a military jet "flying in circles around it" ... look forward to seeing further info here ...
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The reports on what the Northern Cities have proposed has been mentioned all morning on Radio 5 and it has specifically mentioned the rail links into Manchester Airport at times.
http://www.westyorks-ca.gov.uk/uploa...ne%20North.pdf
http://www.westyorks-ca.gov.uk/uploa...ne%20North.pdf
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Re Qatar:
Glad all was well, and a decent pax load too.
"Qatar Airways can confirm that flight QR23 from Doha to Manchester, an Airbus A330-300, landed safely at Manchester Airport ahead of its scheduled arrival time of 13:15.
There were 269 passengers and 13 Qatar Airways crew on board".
Glad all was well, and a decent pax load too.
"Qatar Airways can confirm that flight QR23 from Doha to Manchester, an Airbus A330-300, landed safely at Manchester Airport ahead of its scheduled arrival time of 13:15.
There were 269 passengers and 13 Qatar Airways crew on board".
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No because our friends in the North East scuppered the idea of English Regional Assemblies and City Mayors with clout some years back.
Not another level of artificial political constructs, please!
We've seen the consequences of this with the various council "reorganisations" over the last 50 years.
I see that the 3 main party political leaders have pledged jointly to give the Scottish parliament more powers in the event of a 'No' vote, including on taxation. If that includes the iniquitous and damaging APD, then I'm certain the Scots would decide to abolish it or at least significantly reduce the rates, which could prove disastrous for long haul routes from MAN in particular, but also for NCL and even BHX.
Under the current terms of devolution, the Scottish executive already has the power to vary income tax by +/- 3% compared to the UK rate. This power has never been used. Perhaps there's a good reason for it (?).
It would be reassuring to think that sustained pressure is being applied by MAN and North West business leaders on the Chancellor, not only regarding the present situation on APD but on the increased threat if Scotland is allowed to adopt its own policy.
It needs sustained pressure from all UK business leaders, we need to get rid of this damaging and iniquitous tax.
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Good new with Etihad. Just hope they continue to expand at MAN although have seen a couple of A330's recently rather than the scheduled 777 for both flights.
Also Air China have managed to secure 2nd daily LHR flights. Does this mean MAN is off the cards? Not sure where the slots have come from:
Air China Adds 2nd Daily London Heathrow Service from late-Oct 2014 | Airline Route
Also seems it is that time of year again when aircraft have tech problems:
TOM - 2 aircraft down for Manchester base. G-TUIE engine failure yesterday and therefore diverted to Lajes and so will need an engine change.
Incident: Thomson B788 over Atlantic on Aug 5th 2014, engine shut down in flight
G-OBYH short haul 767 operated TOM122 to Sanford but due to crew hours will be delayed until Thursday so Thomson will be 2 planes down for Wednesday flights. 1 787/1 767. May need extra capacity. Also may see something interesting to take spare engine to Lajes??
MON - G-SMAN A330 out of service since Monday and G-EOMA positioned yesterday to operate TFS flight so 2 MON A330 at MAN now.
Also Air China have managed to secure 2nd daily LHR flights. Does this mean MAN is off the cards? Not sure where the slots have come from:
Air China Adds 2nd Daily London Heathrow Service from late-Oct 2014 | Airline Route
Also seems it is that time of year again when aircraft have tech problems:
TOM - 2 aircraft down for Manchester base. G-TUIE engine failure yesterday and therefore diverted to Lajes and so will need an engine change.
Incident: Thomson B788 over Atlantic on Aug 5th 2014, engine shut down in flight
G-OBYH short haul 767 operated TOM122 to Sanford but due to crew hours will be delayed until Thursday so Thomson will be 2 planes down for Wednesday flights. 1 787/1 767. May need extra capacity. Also may see something interesting to take spare engine to Lajes??
MON - G-SMAN A330 out of service since Monday and G-EOMA positioned yesterday to operate TFS flight so 2 MON A330 at MAN now.
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