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Old 15th Jan 2014, 10:31
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I think the one thing we can agree on is that the retreating of mainline DLH to the 2 core german hubs has done direct links from regional UK to Regional Germany no favours.
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Birmingham has always had strong links with Germany and STR-BHX is a niche route having been a continual link since the days of Birmingham European
Its the auto industries that sustains BHX-STR and yes its had a more consistent connection over thirty years than the on/off Manchester route.

Frankly and I do't like saying it but LPL-STR would probably work better from the North West what with Vauxhall and a host of suppliers and the Chemical companies just down the road in Runcorn many working with BASF in Stuttgart and other similar companies
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Here we go, new Ryanair routes:

Bologna, Fuertaventura, Gran Canaria, Barcelona

Ryanair Opens 4 Manchester Routes In 2014

No mention of Zadar
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BASF is in Manchester as well at Handforth

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Old 15th Jan 2014, 11:55
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Saudia already have the A330s in their fleet since atleast three years.

Air Blue are said to be operating the last flight to UK on 19 January according to their website and call center.
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Frankly and I do't like saying it but LPL-STR would probably work better from
the North West what with Vauxhall and a host of suppliers and the Chemical
companies just down the road in Runcorn many working with BASF in Stuttgart and other similar companies
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Father in law works for one of the Chemical companies in Runcorn and lives in Cheshire, as does everyone else with regular travel in their job description. They prefer to use MAN due to choice and price and its just as quick for them to get to MAN from home. Works the other way too where there are more connection opportunities into MAN from places like China and Brazil and the hotels they are put up in are in the Cheshire/Manchester area.

KLM actually sent his work a questionnaire of preferred airport back when the LPL flight was running, as a lot of them are card holders for KLM/AF, 94.8% replied Manchester. I wonder if the story could be similar at other Runcorn plants as not long after the LPL flight was pulled. Surely no coincidence?
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 13:21
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read my mind Lax

From Vauxhalls, Ellesmere Port it's 30 mins to both airports, so unless there is a specific reason to use Liverpool it's a no brainer really !
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 13:31
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But as stated in my post, its not necessarily about where the business is located, but the staff. My father in law for example does not have to report to work to travel to an airport, he lives in Cheshire so easier for him to get to Manchester.

When other staff visit his plant, their hotel is in Cheshire so again, easier to use Manchester, despite the plant being in Runcorn.

The story could be repeated in lots of other places and scenarios.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 15:03
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Don't forget pre Germanwings & Lufthansa - MAN-STR was also served by HLX Express using B737-500s & 700s & when I used them, also had good load. So, MAN-STR goes back a good number of years.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 17:40
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When i worked for Menzies and we did the 3 evening HLX flights ( New York Taxis ) all 3 flights had good loads.. it was always good seeing all 3 in and parked together....
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 17:58
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flyNas launch looks to be gaining momentum. Seems to be a done deal:

Leak of the week: flynas looks to launch long-haul operations in 2014
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 21:09
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After reading an article about flybe and the IOM, it seems MAN gets an increase.

Flights seem to be 32 weekly each way, compared to the current 23 each way.

Mon to Fri sees 5 daily with 2 on Sat and 3 on Sun.

This is compared to 12 weekly (2 daily most days) at BHX and 24 weekly (3 daily most days) at LPL. (LPL now sees highest frequency in the UK for the IOM due to easyjet also on the route)
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 22:36
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The closure of Astra Zeneca alderley park facility will according to some have an impact on some carriers at manchester. On some flights the number of az cars awaiting their passengers is quite noticeable. Premium traffic too
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 08:23
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The M E N have been suggesting that other companies will take over at AZ HQ, whether they have the kudos of Astra Zeneca is another story !

On a more positive note the this was story that passed us by, the owners of Ronseal are moving the European HQ to Manchester.

Ronseal owner checks into Airport City - Manchester Evening News
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 11:23
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Ryanair routes are online:

Barcelona El Prat is daily

Fuerteventura and Gran Canaria both 2 weekly.

Bologna is 3 x weekly

Several other increases on various routes. Indicates probably 7 based aircraft although could even be 8 if Porto, Zadar and Stockholm are announced as rumoured.
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 14:44
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Schedules at the moment definitely indicate 7 based aircraft at this moment in time. This is even without Katowice which is still in the booking menu but no dates loaded.

I think we can kiss Oporto, Stockholm and Zadar goodbye for now as I would imagine they would have been launched with the other 4 routes. Oporto for example is bookable from Liverpool this summer and would imagine a 'thin' route like that would only be served from one or the other.

Its also good to see Madrid increased with a new Saturday flight. I think less than daily on a city the size of Madrid while routes such as Lisbon support 12 weekly is pretty poor so nice to see an increase.

All in all I'm quite impressed with Ryanair growth at the moment. I had worries they could stagnate like they have at BHX (seem to have hit 4 based and no more) or just be using MAN to squeeze ever more money out of Liverpool, but they seem to be growing quite nicely and it doesn't seem to have affected the MAN incumbents given Easyjet, Monarch and Jet have all grown last year and all have new routes starting this year too (Easyjet only 1 route but have publicly stated they will grow more and given how stretched capacity wise they are this year the one route will suit me just fine).
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 17:28
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Ryanair Summer 2014 picture so far:

Ryanair increases for Summer 2014:

Thus far based aircraft from 6 to 7

New routes:

Barcelona BCN Daily (not really an increases as Girona reduced from 10 weekly to 3 weekly to accommodate the new route)

Bologna 3 weekly

Fuerteventura 2 weekly

Gran Canaria 2 weekly

Route increases:

Ibiza 4 weekly > 5 weekly
Lanzarote 3 weekly > 6 weekly
Madrid 4 weekly > 5 weekly
Tenerife 6 weekly > Daily
Malaga 9 weekly > 10 weekly
Dublin 24 weekly > 31 weekly

New flights total: 28

Decreases for 2014 based on 2013:

Warsaw 3 weekly > 2 weekly
Brussels CRL 13 weekly > 12 weekly
Girona 7 weekly > 3 weekly (was due to go 10 weekly as mentioned above but never actually operated at this frequency)
Paris BVA 4 weekly > 3 weekly

Flights lost: 7

Net increase of 21 flights 14 of which equates to the extra based aircraft, and Katowice still to be loaded.
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 18:33
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This is odd, just had a copy of business week, MEN production and there is a full page advert for Easyjet to Moscow !

For a service which is being slashed it seems odd !

Maybe the actual announcement that it was dropping from 4 to 2 was news in itself conveying the fact that we actually have a service ?
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 19:09
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FR

Unfortunately the Saturday MAD is only June.

Normally FR are easy to work out. Not this time.

Flights are chopping and changing between based and non based particularly in August but at other times as well.

Many flights like the MAD only operate for part of the season rather than the whole.

ie on Tuesday the morning PMI swaps from a based to non based for August and the based aircraft goes to TFS instead during August. There are many other similar instances

There are clearly 7 based aircraft and I haven't checked DUB yet. As things stand DUB has more flights up to May and from September but less during high summer at least based on what is showing at present.

C;early an overall increase which is very welcome. I am concerned about BCN though with 3 carriers now. I expect either LS or ZB to make some reductions at some point.
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Old 16th Jan 2014, 20:33
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Q - All in all I'm quite impressed with Ryanair growth at the moment. I had worries they could stagnate like they have at BHX (seem to have hit 4 based and no more) or just be using MAN to squeeze ever more money out of Liverpool, but they seem to be growing quite nicely and it doesn't seem to have affected the MAN incumbents given Easyjet, Monarch and Jet have all grown last year and all have new routes starting this year too (Easyjet only 1 route but have publicly stated they will grow more and given how stretched capacity wise they are this year the one route will suit me just fine).


The money is not being squeezed out of Liverpool, being squeezed much closer to home!
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