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Old 12th Jan 2014, 14:08
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The Norwegian/TUI deal only covers flights from Gatwick in the UK.
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 14:33
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Thought it might do. Seems Gatwick is where Norwegian wish to expand in the UK
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 19:44
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Apparently Flynas have applied to serve 2 weekly Riyadh-Manchester 'from summer 2014'. They say they have enjoyed great success with the Etihad codeshare and are seeing potential to serve the route. They will also launch LGW this summer too.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 08:00
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Crikey! Nice to see another new carrier but I do hope it's not another overkill


situation like on some other routes we've seen in the past... before they


even launch! Oh well, best of luck to both and great if they both succeed.


Maybe they're aiming at a different type of traveller. I'd be interested to hear


what others think.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 08:03
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Saudia will fly from Jeddah so shouldn't be overkill if they plan to fly from Riyadh. Currently they mainly have A320's but did read a rumour about them purchasing A330's for this summer so I presume these will be used on the route.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 08:47
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Ah! Didn't twig that. Well in that case hopefully it's Happy Days!
Drinks all round then....only joking!
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 10:53
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For those who bemoan the lack of advertising from MAN, the Saudia route to Jeddah has at last been announced:

Arabian Aerospace - Saudia Airlines return to UK's Manchester Airport with direct Jeddah route
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 12:05
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and it's on the MAN Facebook feed too.
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 16:31
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Cebu Pacific via Middle East to Manchester, upset PAL on the London service?

Lovely highest density A330's in service.....
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 22:48
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Cebu Pacific at Manchester? I highly doubt it.
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 09:59
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For those who bemoan the lack of advertising from MAN, the Saudia route to Jeddah has at last been announced:

Appeared on Twitter and the Timetable as well

...although it doesn't appear on the airports own

Destination List

OR

Complete Destination List yet !

First law of marketing is a holistic approach ensuring ALL channels where a customer "might look" are covered prior to issuing a press release "as one", (never send a customer down a cu de sac).

Still think MAG "could" issue their own PR in English AND Arabic.

Doesn't need to cost anything in time or energy, in not much more than an hour and using social media its possible to reach a massive potential market, bags of free opportunities on various business, travel, religious outlets.

I do appreciate it is a SAUDI press release not one issued by the airport ...otherwise well done, up and running !

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Old 14th Jan 2014, 10:13
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...although it doesn't appear on the airports own

Destination
List


OR

Complete Destination List
But realistically how many customers could be 'lost' through not being in those 2 lists? Its on the timetable, its on the saudia website, its on GDS, its covered by at least 13 press releases now (according to google news anyway) and no doubt being offered in the independent travel agents that specialise in Umra/Asian travel. Even as an supporter of MAN, I do not look at the 2 lists you quote. But then I suppose some will always expect more.


That said I do appreciate it is a SAUDI press release not one issued by the
airport ...otherwise 7/10 well done
I struggle to think the last time the airport released a new route story. All the ones I can remember have been issued by other news sources/airlines with the airport add a quote to them.

In other news, the Orbest flights to Lanzarote for Summer 2014 now carry both Orbest and Evelop Air flight numbers.
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 12:14
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I struggle to think the last time the airport released a new route story. All the ones I can remember have been issued by other news sources/airlines with the airport add a quote to them.

Couldn't agree more !

They advertised for a Press/Marketing officer about 12 months ago who could write incisive, creative, imaginative PR !

I wait with bated breath !
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 12:20
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Not too sure why Germanwings dropped the Stuttgart route judging by this article.

Routes News - Love thy neighbour?

"These carriers offer coverage within Europe, although the airport says there is demand on the unserved routes of Madrid, Manchester, Nice and Stockholm, as well as the Baltic States and Scandinavia."

Not sure who could step in to fill this route?
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 13:19
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It is a mystery why the route was pulled given the passenger figures were strong and a historic route.

Whilst I appriciate flybe are having restructuring issues but given they fly BHX-STR and ournumbers were always stronger, they may be a candidate?
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Old 14th Jan 2014, 13:47
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It is a strange one but Flybe could make it work. Germanwings may reinstate the route once they have also restructured themselves folowing the transfer of some Lufthansa short haul routes. Did LH use to operate the route with CRJ900's?
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 09:24
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It also appears that Flybe will not be doing any charter flights from any UK airport during summer 2014 as part of restructuring. Seems rather odd to me as I can imagine they increased utilisation on quieter weekends. However it appears they will be getting rid of 2 E195's for this summer. I know from MAN last year they did Almeria, Olbia and Cagliari so not sure if these are planned to operated by another airline for this summer. BA Cityflyer? Anything in summer 2014 schedules?
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 09:33
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but given they fly BHX-STR and ournumbers were always stronger, they may be a candidate?
LAX-LHR . Don't assume . According to the CAA stats for 2011 & 2012 BHX had more pax than MAN. It would also not be wise to compare like for like as it is not all about pax figures . Birmingham has always had strong links with Germany and STR-BHX is a niche route having been a continual link since the days of Birmingham European. I think a DHC-8 with flybe business pricing is different to a GWI A319.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 09:45
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LAX-LHR . Don't assume . According to the CAA stats for 2011 & 2012 BHX had more pax than MAN. It would also not be wise to compare like for like as it is not all about pax figures
Well I will apologise for that bit as I could have sworn I had seen the MAN figures were higher, but obviously not. Maybe the 2 daily business friendly times versus the daily CRJ or 5 weekly A319 it finished with helped.

Birmingham has always had strong links with Germany and
STR-BHX is a niche route having been a continual link since the days of
Birmingham European
Not that this is the competition you seem to be making it, but so has MAN. STR has been served by Lufthansa for years before Germanwings took over and the MAN-Germany market is as strong, possibly stronger than BHX given the number of routes that are or have been served, more frequency on most routes and larger equipment on the core routes of FRA/MUC/DUS.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 09:58
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The CAA seems to be starting to publish the punctuality stats for 2013.

Manchester came in at a fairly respectable 81% for the 'early to 15 minutes late' bracket, ahead of LTN/LHR/LGW so far, but not all airports have been published.

However, I do wonder how long it will take LN-KGL to appear and state how the CAA, with all data cannot possibly be right as 'flightstats, with half the data missing says it is one of the worst in Europe'.
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