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Old 19th Oct 2013, 17:31
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Norwegian flights

I am slightly puzzled, maybe someone can enlighten me.
If Norway is not a member of the EU how can a non EU carrier open
bases in the UK .?
PS this is my first post, having read about the proposed service from
LGW to USA and now possibly MAN-AGP
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 17:39
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Flights to Charlotte start 23rd May using US Airways 757. "book" the seat. US746/747
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 17:47
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Absolutely fantastic news.

Its great to see some growth across the atlantic again. Also 5 hours on the ground should build up the change purse charge wise for MAG.

So far:

Air Canada to Toronto
Virgin upgauge back to the B747 on all flights
US to Charlotte

There are strong rumours United to Newark will be on the B767-300 next year too, and as usual the B767-300 back on the AA54/55 will begin in May (uploaded soon).

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Old 19th Oct 2013, 18:10
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The only down side is that it's going to be hard to convince anyone outside the industry that APD is harming route development.
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Well to be honest the stubborness over the APD means its likely to be here for a while.

In that time I would rather see growth and new routes rather than sit and wait for something that may never happen.

So, with Saudia supposedly starting in April, 3 new longhaul routes in the summer 2014 basket is not to be sniffed at!
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 18:38
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Good news about CLT and MAN isn't the only route. BCN, LIS and BRU also gain flights. MAN and LIS lowest capacity out of the 4.
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 18:41
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Virgin upgauge back to the B747 on all flights
only trouble is there is a reduction in flts down from 14 to 10.
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 18:48
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J636.

The B757 is still welcome, and I would rather give a new route the chance to work and grow rather than use say, the A330, be too much capacity to fill and then subsiquently fail.

Spanners, which VS flights are cut next summer? Looking at GDS and VS site it still shows MCO at 11 per week, BGI at 1 and LAS at 2?
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 19:33
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1 hour 10 mins from landing to getting bags at an empty T2 yesterday evening. Nice flight on MON A332 though despite a knackered seat.
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 20:58
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WTF does "Upgauge" mean?
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 22:34
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Oh give it a rest turin.
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Upgauge

TURIN

I don't know where you have read "upgauge", however it is sometimes used as a means of explaining a change of aircraft type on a route. For example if US airways were to offer a through flight Manchester to La Guardia via Charlotte with a single flight number, but a change of aircraft type at Charlotte then that would be an 'upgauge'.

The nearest comparison for this Americanism would be a change of train from a narrow gauge to standard gauge track.

Does that help?

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Old 20th Oct 2013, 08:39
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Upgauge

LAX_LHR. This is an open forum, if somebody wants to make a prick of themselves, then I don't think you can stop them. Keep posting the interesting stuff, don't really care what Turin doesn't understand.

Oh, and we use the slang word Upgauge in my industry too, we refer to this as Ultrasonic English.
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Old 20th Oct 2013, 09:38
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Turin

I don't blame you for asking what upgauge means. Our industry is full of jargon, and those of us who are too familiar with it (and I class myself in that category) probably need to get out more.

In this context, upgauge simply means replacing one aircraft type with another of higher capacity. In this case replacing an A330 with a 744. Downgauge would be the reverse.

At the risk of being excessively pedantic, what Sholto is talking about is actually "change of gauge". Some carriers (normally US ones) sometimes market a service under the same flight number even when there is a stop en-route involving a change of aircraft. A bit tricksy really.

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Old 20th Oct 2013, 10:08
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....with Rouge, Saudia, and now US Air....plus massive investment by the Chinese in Manchester, it appears to be a massive vote of confidence in NWest.
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yes with all these offices in the offing will create a large number of high value pax

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Old 20th Oct 2013, 14:53
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Great news about US Airways.

Just a quick question about Transavia France. I remember reading a post a few months ago about a base for them at Manchester. Any further news about whether this is true or indeed any dates/times/routes?

Also with regards to TCX/Condor at Manchester for Summer 2014, any updates or news with regards to possible new routes or based aircraft?

Thomas Cook Airlines to turn Manchester, Frankfurt into longhaul hubs - ch-aviation.ch

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Old 20th Oct 2013, 15:41
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The Transavia base was an error in the GDS systems where a number of Thomson flights with the B737-800 were showing as Transavia France flights.

The condor base is still happening with a based B757-300 and flights are bookable across all platforms including Thomas Cook and Condor site. Can't remember all routes but Kos, Fuerteventura and Palma are 3 routes.
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Old 20th Oct 2013, 16:49
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR
J636.

The B757 is still welcome, and I would rather give a new route the chance to work and grow rather than use say, the A330, be too much capacity to fill and then subsiquently fail.

Spanners, which VS flights are cut next summer? Looking at GDS and VS site it still shows MCO at 11 per week, BGI at 1 and LAS at 2?
sorry thought you meant this winter.
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Old 21st Oct 2013, 09:00
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How would a member of the public actually find the rouge flights?

They seem to be buried with the aircanada marketing which is great IF they are being marketed under same. Seems confusing.
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Re saudia I find it incredible and exasperating that it takes lobbying from sheffield based MPs councillors to assist in gaining a new routes from Manchester 45mins away. All power to them.

...where are all the nwest based MPs and why are they not batting for Manchester with same veracity.

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