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I don't know why United appointed Louis van Gaal as manager. They have overlooked the most passionate, committed Mancunian on the planet in yourself! Your diatribes drip desire. If you don't get the airport marketing head's job then there is no justice in the world.
I don't know why United appointed Louis van Gaal as manager. They have overlooked the most passionate, committed Mancunian on the planet in yourself! Your diatribes drip desire. If you don't get the airport marketing head's job then there is no justice in the world.
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Hi!
I have been trying to find out how you get to the 23L/05R side of the airport to view aircraft. There are lots of videos on YouTube that have been filmed from that side so I was wondering if anyone can tell me how you get onto the embankment there? Been trying to take some close up pics of the aircraft for ages and don't want to upset any of the locals by trespassing!
Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I have been trying to find out how you get to the 23L/05R side of the airport to view aircraft. There are lots of videos on YouTube that have been filmed from that side so I was wondering if anyone can tell me how you get onto the embankment there? Been trying to take some close up pics of the aircraft for ages and don't want to upset any of the locals by trespassing!
Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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MS need to hurry it up, I am in the market for flights to Cairo in November but I can't wait forever to book.. Another couple of weeks and it'll be BA via LHR again.
This must be costing them a fortune in lost business?!
This must be costing them a fortune in lost business?!
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New Thomas Cook route - Varna:
TCX2182 1540-2110 2210-2350 WED
Interestingly, this has appeared in the drop down TCX menu for several months as has Seville, Verona and LAX! Lets hope for the other three!
TCX2182 1540-2110 2210-2350 WED
Interestingly, this has appeared in the drop down TCX menu for several months as has Seville, Verona and LAX! Lets hope for the other three!
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MAG Twittersphere appears to be undergoing a seachange with more emphasis on new routes destinations etc and a "call to arms" in terms of RT !
Infact notwithstanding "CrocodileJoe" appearing at the AVP ......
Excellent News !
The ThomasCook and Miami flights appeared few days back with a link and the new FlyBe to AMS
They now have 125K followers so even if only 20% are genuine that is at least 25,000 punters who are now aware hopefully they may pass on through their accounts or word of mouth !
(Completely missed Facebook of course which underlines the random nature of circulation but hey ....small acorns )
Infact notwithstanding "CrocodileJoe" appearing at the AVP ......
Excellent News !
The ThomasCook and Miami flights appeared few days back with a link and the new FlyBe to AMS
They now have 125K followers so even if only 20% are genuine that is at least 25,000 punters who are now aware hopefully they may pass on through their accounts or word of mouth !
(Completely missed Facebook of course which underlines the random nature of circulation but hey ....small acorns )
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Bagso how do you measure success via twitter? Beyond followers and likes which only a naive would try and monetise, how do you attribute any gains to the bottom line to social meeja. I only ask as no one serious thinks you can.
You have no causal link most of the time to seperate it out from concurrent above and below the line activity. Thoughts?
You have no causal link most of the time to seperate it out from concurrent above and below the line activity. Thoughts?
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As Mickeyman is not interested in your question or my answer I have deleted response and will Pm you.
Hopefully MM can fill the void with lots of juicy rumours or maybe some comprehensive answers on retaining what we have....
"Is the desperation of spotters for new services replicated on other Airport forums or is it just this Manchester thread"
Well that's a new one and somewhat cavalier attitude, clearly losing a number of routes or reduction of frequency does not actually matter !
As Mickeyman is not interested in your question or my answer I have deleted response and will Pm you.
Hopefully MM can fill the void with lots of juicy rumours or maybe some comprehensive answers on retaining what we have....
"Is the desperation of spotters for new services replicated on other Airport forums or is it just this Manchester thread"
Well that's a new one and somewhat cavalier attitude, clearly losing a number of routes or reduction of frequency does not actually matter !
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"Is the desperation of spotters for new services replicated on other Airport forums or is it just this Manchester thread"
Rather patronising if I may say so, MM.
Some of us appreciate new services if they create jobs in the area, attract new businesses and increase prosperity for the wider region. And yes, dare I say it, because we have pride in our local airport and want to see it flourish. Personally, while aircraft types are of some interest, registrations are not, but I don't see why those who regard themselves as 'spotters' at MAN should be mocked.
If you took the trouble to read other forums, you might just notice that those on GLA, EDI, BHX, LTN & STN threads for example are also very interested in new services.
Rather patronising if I may say so, MM.
Some of us appreciate new services if they create jobs in the area, attract new businesses and increase prosperity for the wider region. And yes, dare I say it, because we have pride in our local airport and want to see it flourish. Personally, while aircraft types are of some interest, registrations are not, but I don't see why those who regard themselves as 'spotters' at MAN should be mocked.
If you took the trouble to read other forums, you might just notice that those on GLA, EDI, BHX, LTN & STN threads for example are also very interested in new services.
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Skipness - Whilst accepting your general point that the impact of social media-based marketing is difficult to reliably measure / quantify, does it necessarily follow that such marketing initiatives should therefore never be attempted at all? Social media-based campaigns offer very low-cost access to large sections of the public (who by registering have actively expressed interest in the product). Whilst positive results remain difficult to quantify with accuracy, it is clear that returns on investment DO exist. I suggest that those benefits justify carefully targeted promotions backed by a modest initial budget. After all, if UK-industry becomes 100% risk-averse and never pursues any strategy which cannot be costed in advance down to the last penny the economy is doomed indeed. I know you are an analyst, but seriously … just how accurate do you think financial forecasting is generally (never mind simply in this narrow area)? I contend that the difficulty in quantifying risk-return does not constitute justification for permanent inaction and a policy of institutionalised stagnation.
MM - If discussion of new air services and airport marketing issues are of no interest to you, may I suggest that the AA&R Forum may not be the place for you? Google a subject which is to your liking and the digital universe is yours to enjoy!
MM - If discussion of new air services and airport marketing issues are of no interest to you, may I suggest that the AA&R Forum may not be the place for you? Google a subject which is to your liking and the digital universe is yours to enjoy!
To be fair, and I mean this with up most respect, it has been like listening to a broken record at times. The song may well be damn good and the lyrics true but once the record breaks, you just have to switch it off.
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Shed it's not clear social media has much return on most investment in the main. When you speak directly to the people responsible and look at most of their numbers they're plucked from thin air and plopped on sand. This is partly why many managers are reluctant to assign substantial budget much of the time. It looks pretty and generates talk and likes but when you're being grilled by senior management as to what they're ££££s bought and you can't explain in terms of uplift against natural behaviour and show a statistically significant change in customer behaviour, you don't get more money.
It's great in theory, just almost impossible to track the changes you need. Anyhoo it's worth googling, back to more interesting things.
*sorry*
It's great in theory, just almost impossible to track the changes you need. Anyhoo it's worth googling, back to more interesting things.
*sorry*
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Just a brief comeback on that one … we're not proposing a "substantial budget" in the case of MAN. A decent social media presence can be maintained for MAN using existing resources / staff. The airport already has social media presence … we're just urging greater emphasis on promotion of destination awareness alongside the customary fayre of car parking deals and meal vouchers. Encouragingly, there does appear to be early signs of a shift in that direction.
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As per my PM Skippy.
You seem to be under the mistaken belief that postings on social media are prohibitive ?
The only cost is time and alocating an employee !
You would need a marketing budget for traditional advertising roadshows, exhibitions, etc but twitter/Facebook ..hardly ! That's why everybody else is doing it !
Good God man we don't need meetings, budget reviews , ROI analysis , quite frankly a YTS could implement this 1 morning a week !
Maybe a few of us are hung up on this because we are old enough to have seen a few airlines come and sadly go.
When you see Dublin "thrashing" the net you cannot help but think why on Earth is Manchester not executing something similar.
And yes it may be same old but if the powers that be are readng this....better that that than bemoaning another lost opportunity !
You seem to be under the mistaken belief that postings on social media are prohibitive ?
The only cost is time and alocating an employee !
You would need a marketing budget for traditional advertising roadshows, exhibitions, etc but twitter/Facebook ..hardly ! That's why everybody else is doing it !
Good God man we don't need meetings, budget reviews , ROI analysis , quite frankly a YTS could implement this 1 morning a week !
Maybe a few of us are hung up on this because we are old enough to have seen a few airlines come and sadly go.
When you see Dublin "thrashing" the net you cannot help but think why on Earth is Manchester not executing something similar.
And yes it may be same old but if the powers that be are readng this....better that that than bemoaning another lost opportunity !
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Dublin has a based network carrier, that's pretty much the driver. MAN has about the same US carrier presence but lacks a home champion as you well know 
MAN also does way better going East and has much more EU legacy options.
Facebook and Twitter are peripheral issues to all of that!
MAN also does way better going East and has much more EU legacy options.Facebook and Twitter are peripheral issues to all of that!
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Continental originally started MAN-EWR flights with DC-10s, which over time evolved into a daily B777 service. Later still this was changed to a twice-daily B757.
Sometime after the merger with UA one of the twice daily EWR flights was rerouted to IAD.
I'm pretty sure UA never operated their own flights from MAN prior to the merger with Continental. However UA did code share on BMI's daily A330 services to IAD and ORD when they were operating.
Sometime after the merger with UA one of the twice daily EWR flights was rerouted to IAD.
I'm pretty sure UA never operated their own flights from MAN prior to the merger with Continental. However UA did code share on BMI's daily A330 services to IAD and ORD when they were operating.
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