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Old 30th Sep 2012, 22:44
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increase from 3 flights to 6 flights a week on the build up to christmas,this should keep the 3rd plane busy,and help the passenger numbers
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increase from 3 flights to 6 flights a week on the build up to christmas,this should keep the 3rd plane busy,and help the passenger numbers
Blimey, if they carry on like this they will soon be busier than Iverness and snapping at the heels of really busy airports like Blackpool, Scilly Isles and Scatsta...
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Sorry, I don't quite see what you're getting at. Is it not good news that a brand new route warrants additional Christmas frequencies? Modest in itself of course but yet another step in the right direction.
JER also increased to daily I understand from 14 December to 7 January (excluding Christmas Day).

Reference your enquiry regarding ground running noise, it's covered in the Noise Action Plan I believe so have a look there.
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Blimey, if they carry on like this they will soon be busier than Iverness and snapping at the heels of really busy airports like Blackpool, Scilly Isles and Scatsta...
Securing more operators would be useful, but SEN is on course to finish above Bournemouth, Exeter, IOM, Norwich and Doncaster Sheffield in the year April 2012-March 2013 in pax. Not a bad effort within the first year of EZY operations.

This article from Bloomberg just seems to be using PPRuNe and other forums as its information source:

London Southend Airport Tempts TUI as Growth Push Gathers Pace - Bloomberg
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 15:42
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Sorry, I don't quite see what you're getting at.
Just adding some perspective to a sometimes over-excited thread, a counter-weight to all the exuberant pro-Stobart propaganda.

I'm a supporter of the airport and keen to see it prosper as a multi-use field for all types of aviation includng private and business use alongside the scheduled orange movements.
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There will alway be a big role at Southend for private flying.

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Old 1st Oct 2012, 16:17
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Whether the "roll" be cheese, ham or BLT, I think SEN only will pay lip service to private flying in future. It just doesn't seem to fit their future vision for SEN unfortunately; but perhaps not surprisingly.
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When Luton was handling around 2,000,000 passengers a year there was not much happening at the airport for large parts of the day. This allowed plenty of time for GA including GA touch and goes.

No point in turning money away because the airpot is getting snobby and thinks it is something that it isn't.
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Thomas Cook holidays are offering SEN departures now albeit using allocation on EZY, Destinations are PMI, IBZ and ALC.
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Just out of interest did LTN still have its grass runway in use in those days? I cannot remember when it was withdrawn.
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I ask again the question: If Thomas Cook and other inclusive tour operators are buying in advance the cheapest seats available from SEN with EZY, what is left for the normal passenger?
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I suppose it depends on the size of the seat allocation that the tour operators are buying. I would guess it isn't very great per flight but perhaps someone has firm information on that.

I assume the SEN-JER attracted tour operator bookings this summer but it didn't seem to impact much on the prices available to independent travellers.

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It had 2 grass runways. I can't remember either when they were closed but it was between 1986 and 1994.

I would imagine when Luton was a 2,000,000 passenger airport and when Southend becomes a 2,000,000 passenger airport there will be a few similarities. The based aircraft will leave nice and early then the place will be dead apart from the odd none based aircraft turning up. Then the wave will return all at similar times. There will be 3 waves of departures and 3 waves of arrivals each day when Southend will appear to be really busy. At other times the place will be dead. Well that’s what happened at Luton anyway.

Luton was fine with GA aircraft even at the busier times until it reached about 4 or 5 million then GA was priced out of Luton as it was no longer welcome.

If it can Southend should encourage all aviation as it helps pay the bills.

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Old 1st Oct 2012, 19:12
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If it can Southend should encourage all aviation as it helps pay the bills.
Absolutely agree with you; too many smaller airports get snobbish about GA and ultimately it is they who lose out when, from the time when the first wave of loco departures has gone early in the morning, the airfield remains quietish throughout the day. As long as GA isn't a hindrance at Southend, it should be welcomed and encouraged.
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 19:26
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GA pilots review of Southend here Pilot reviews of Southend Airport
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I hear that there was only 18 passengers on the AMS-SEN morning flight yesterday.
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And your point is LTNman, re only 18 on Ams sen flight.?

I've often flown on early Sunday morn BFS LPL, with as few as 6 people on the sector, but this route still remains one of easyJet's busiest. Early Sunday can be soft in terms of bookings especially from here on over Winter.

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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 04:51
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So you know that Easyjet are not bothered about certain flights being run with next to no passengeres so will just carry on? Ryanair are bothered as they just lay up their aircraft as it is cheaper to park them instead of fly them.

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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 07:11
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....... so if I posted here that another AMS flight on one particular day was full that would mean the route is definitely a roaring success I suppose.

Oh, and by the way, there isn't a morning AMS-SEN on a Sunday so how reliable is your information anyway?

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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 09:25
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Re yesterdays AMS flight the were actually 142 pax in & 134 out so I don't quite know where you get your info from.
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