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Old 26th Feb 2014, 07:17
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I was on a Monarch flight recently where the entire cabin crew (A330) were Spanish. Nothing wrong with it, the crew were great, just curious as to what was going on?
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 08:49
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We're all European now (until the Daily Mail gets it's way) so we're all free to live and work wherever we want within the EU. I would suggest that with unemployment as it is in Spain Monarch found it possible to get multilingual cabin staff, willing and eager to work, for the same price, or less, than monolingual staff from UK.

If people in the UK bothered to learn a second (European) language they may be more able to compete for these sorts of jobs on a level playing field.
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 09:10
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Agreed, but which second language ? most Europeans speak English as a second language, its very much the common language across much of Europe and beyond, it the language of business, computing and of course aviation, but learn French, you'll end up working in Spain, lean Spanish you'll end up working in Northern Europe.......but i totally agree with your comments.

I guess cabin crew it depends on the day, i've had fantastic & bad experience with same airlines, but agree comments about seats and leg room.
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 09:47
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langauge in the uk.

well at the moment the second langauge in the uk is polish.
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 10:09
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In my experience, the Monarch cabin crew are very professional and deal with rude passengers extremely well - which is on the rise unfortunately. I guess if the parking or journey in is difficult, or security have gone for the full treatment, the poor cabin crew are an easy vent after a beer.

I was flying last year and a guy was kicking a child's seat in front of him, just because the child was not sitting still - the father went mad and it all kicked off at 38,000 feet. Another woman was really rude and cutting to the crew, just because she felt like it. Honestly, there is just no need for that. The crew are there for our safety, not to abuse.
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Old 26th Feb 2014, 12:43
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2nd Language for Cabin Crew

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Agree that most travelling Europeans speak English, as a second language, but crew give a much better impression to passengers when they can address them in their own language, rather than "shouting very slowly in English" which is the default position adopted by your average Brit - or American. I recall a trip with Pan American when a senior steward, who clearly should have known better, resorted to the aforementioned communications technique when speaking to a Dutch passenger who clearly spoke English at least well as said steward, but simply hadn't heard correctly what had been said!

As an aside, your average DB train "clippy" on IC or ICE services speaks English, and usually another language (not necessarily Turkish!!) - try getting a second language out of a Virgin Trains employee, unless it's "foul" one that originates from the sub continent!!!

A major step forward for Monarch, and other UK airlines, would be to employ cabin crew with appropriate language skills. If Norwegian only employed Norwegian speaking staff, they wouldn't have proved as successful at Gatwick as they undoubtedly are.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 09:25
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Does anyone think that monarch would ever look at getting a 3rd a330.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 09:53
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Good time for Monarch to make Qantas an offer for all their parked up new ,never been used a320/321
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 10:51
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Does anyone think that monarch would ever look at getting a 3rd a330.
Wasn't the cancellation of the B787 justified around Monarch getting out of long haul flying entirely but was tied into the leases on the two A332s?
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 10:56
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More like the massive leasing costs:

787 approx. $1.2m
767 approx. $0.2m

That was a smart move in my opinion, helping to secure the future.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 09:51
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Wasn't the cancellation of the B787 justified around Monarch getting out of long haul flying entirely but was tied into the leases on the two A332s?
The 332's were paid for in cash by a group entity so I'd say it was more just a case of getting out of longhaul. Monarch need the business first before they go out and get the airframes for longhaul again. If that ever happens who knows.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 13:58
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I've booked a Window Seat, 12K on the Monarch A300 Enthusiasts Trip. I understand row 12 is the fourth row after the second set of Doors, but I watched this video and it seems to be a Window seat... without a window

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eJZ4maAyA

I'm not sure if the aircraft has been reconfigured since this video but if anyone can provide me any info on this please let me know Thanks
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 19:59
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I believe the B787 were cancelled due to cost and the decline in the longhaul market.
Even though the A330s were owned at the time of the B787 cancellation, they are now leased.
So this does have a baring on not getting out of longhaul, however they are being used more of a A300 replacement during the summer season.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 22:06
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Airbus A300 G-MONS Seat 12J

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77EK...WXfeb3yNPQ_RUg

Quote from my video.-
"..... Monarch's 23 year old Airbus A300. (G-MONS).
The pre-booked seat had been changed from 7F to 12J... a window seat without a window.
Terrible leg room with no personal cooling vents. What look like cooling vents are actually lights!!!"

"How bad was seat 12J window wise? I'm sitting there on the Enthusiasts Trip "

The window on MONS was filled in with plastic trim.... Whether this is the case for JMR I don't know, but if it is then It certainly should not have been sold as a window seat on this special enthusiast flight.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 22:09
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"How bad was seat 12J window wise? I'm sitting there on the Enthusiasts Trip "
Yeah that was me who made that comment

Cross your fingers G-OJMR has a slightly different layout
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 17:05
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AFAIK all seat configs were/are the same on Monarchs A300's from row 9 back and have never changed. Presumably if row 12 had no window in the video it is still the same. The front cabin row's 1-7 did change on some aircraft.
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Old 5th Mar 2014, 17:25
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According to skyliner-aviation.de Monarch are to lease an Air Malta A320 9H-AEF? Anyone know what's going on?
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Old 12th Mar 2014, 19:31
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Monarch Aircraft Summer 2014 Allocations

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the aircraft allocations and types will be based at their UK bases this Summer??

Thanks in advance.
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 13:53
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Aircraft Allocations

When I last looked the allocations were as follows -

BHX

7 x A321
2 x A320

EMA

2 x A321

LBA

2 x A320

LGW

8 x A321
1 x A320
1 x A332
2 x B757

LTN

2 x A321
3 x A320

MAN

7 x A321
2 x A320
1 x A332
1 x B757

That gives a total of 26 x A321, 10 x A320, 2 x A332, 3 x B757 which makes 41 Aircraft leaving 1 x A321 as spare A/C. There has been a few changes in the schedules since I looked so there could have been a slight reshuffle of the A321/A320 fleets around bases but I dont expect any changes to B757/A332 allocations.
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Old 18th Mar 2014, 21:18
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Any news on the 75's I know they have been bought.
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