Monarch - 3
Artie Fufkin
We're all European now (until the Daily Mail gets it's way) so we're all free to live and work wherever we want within the EU. I would suggest that with unemployment as it is in Spain Monarch found it possible to get multilingual cabin staff, willing and eager to work, for the same price, or less, than monolingual staff from UK.
If people in the UK bothered to learn a second (European) language they may be more able to compete for these sorts of jobs on a level playing field.
We're all European now (until the Daily Mail gets it's way) so we're all free to live and work wherever we want within the EU. I would suggest that with unemployment as it is in Spain Monarch found it possible to get multilingual cabin staff, willing and eager to work, for the same price, or less, than monolingual staff from UK.
If people in the UK bothered to learn a second (European) language they may be more able to compete for these sorts of jobs on a level playing field.
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Agreed, but which second language ? most Europeans speak English as a second language, its very much the common language across much of Europe and beyond, it the language of business, computing and of course aviation, but learn French, you'll end up working in Spain, lean Spanish you'll end up working in Northern Europe.......but i totally agree with your comments.
I guess cabin crew it depends on the day, i've had fantastic & bad experience with same airlines, but agree comments about seats and leg room.
I guess cabin crew it depends on the day, i've had fantastic & bad experience with same airlines, but agree comments about seats and leg room.
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In my experience, the Monarch cabin crew are very professional and deal with rude passengers extremely well - which is on the rise unfortunately. I guess if the parking or journey in is difficult, or security have gone for the full treatment, the poor cabin crew are an easy vent after a beer.
I was flying last year and a guy was kicking a child's seat in front of him, just because the child was not sitting still - the father went mad and it all kicked off at 38,000 feet. Another woman was really rude and cutting to the crew, just because she felt like it. Honestly, there is just no need for that. The crew are there for our safety, not to abuse.
I was flying last year and a guy was kicking a child's seat in front of him, just because the child was not sitting still - the father went mad and it all kicked off at 38,000 feet. Another woman was really rude and cutting to the crew, just because she felt like it. Honestly, there is just no need for that. The crew are there for our safety, not to abuse.
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Agree that most travelling Europeans speak English, as a second language, but crew give a much better impression to passengers when they can address them in their own language, rather than "shouting very slowly in English" which is the default position adopted by your average Brit - or American. I recall a trip with Pan American when a senior steward, who clearly should have known better, resorted to the aforementioned communications technique when speaking to a Dutch passenger who clearly spoke English at least well as said steward, but simply hadn't heard correctly what had been said!
As an aside, your average DB train "clippy" on IC or ICE services speaks English, and usually another language (not necessarily Turkish!!) - try getting a second language out of a Virgin Trains employee, unless it's "foul" one that originates from the sub continent!!!
A major step forward for Monarch, and other UK airlines, would be to employ cabin crew with appropriate language skills. If Norwegian only employed Norwegian speaking staff, they wouldn't have proved as successful at Gatwick as they undoubtedly are.
Agree that most travelling Europeans speak English, as a second language, but crew give a much better impression to passengers when they can address them in their own language, rather than "shouting very slowly in English" which is the default position adopted by your average Brit - or American. I recall a trip with Pan American when a senior steward, who clearly should have known better, resorted to the aforementioned communications technique when speaking to a Dutch passenger who clearly spoke English at least well as said steward, but simply hadn't heard correctly what had been said!
As an aside, your average DB train "clippy" on IC or ICE services speaks English, and usually another language (not necessarily Turkish!!) - try getting a second language out of a Virgin Trains employee, unless it's "foul" one that originates from the sub continent!!!
A major step forward for Monarch, and other UK airlines, would be to employ cabin crew with appropriate language skills. If Norwegian only employed Norwegian speaking staff, they wouldn't have proved as successful at Gatwick as they undoubtedly are.
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Does anyone think that monarch would ever look at getting a 3rd a330.
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Wasn't the cancellation of the B787 justified around Monarch getting out of long haul flying entirely but was tied into the leases on the two A332s?
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I've booked a Window Seat, 12K on the Monarch A300 Enthusiasts Trip. I understand row 12 is the fourth row after the second set of Doors, but I watched this video and it seems to be a Window seat... without a window 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eJZ4maAyA
I'm not sure if the aircraft has been reconfigured since this video but if anyone can provide me any info on this please let me know
Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eJZ4maAyA
I'm not sure if the aircraft has been reconfigured since this video but if anyone can provide me any info on this please let me know
Thanks
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I believe the B787 were cancelled due to cost and the decline in the longhaul market.
Even though the A330s were owned at the time of the B787 cancellation, they are now leased.
So this does have a baring on not getting out of longhaul, however they are being used more of a A300 replacement during the summer season.
Even though the A330s were owned at the time of the B787 cancellation, they are now leased.
So this does have a baring on not getting out of longhaul, however they are being used more of a A300 replacement during the summer season.
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Airbus A300 G-MONS Seat 12J
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77EK...WXfeb3yNPQ_RUg
Quote from my video.-
"..... Monarch's 23 year old Airbus A300. (G-MONS).
The pre-booked seat had been changed from 7F to 12J... a window seat without a window.
Terrible leg room with no personal cooling vents. What look like cooling vents are actually lights!!!"
"How bad was seat 12J window wise? I'm sitting there on the Enthusiasts Trip"
The window on MONS was filled in with plastic trim.... Whether this is the case for JMR I don't know, but if it is then It certainly should not have been sold as a window seat on this special enthusiast flight.
Quote from my video.-
"..... Monarch's 23 year old Airbus A300. (G-MONS).
The pre-booked seat had been changed from 7F to 12J... a window seat without a window.
Terrible leg room with no personal cooling vents. What look like cooling vents are actually lights!!!"
"How bad was seat 12J window wise? I'm sitting there on the Enthusiasts Trip
"The window on MONS was filled in with plastic trim.... Whether this is the case for JMR I don't know, but if it is then It certainly should not have been sold as a window seat on this special enthusiast flight.
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"How bad was seat 12J window wise? I'm sitting there on the Enthusiasts Trip "
Cross your fingers G-OJMR has a slightly different layout
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AFAIK all seat configs were/are the same on Monarchs A300's from row 9 back and have never changed. Presumably if row 12 had no window in the video it is still the same. The front cabin row's 1-7 did change on some aircraft.
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Aircraft Allocations
When I last looked the allocations were as follows -
BHX
7 x A321
2 x A320
EMA
2 x A321
LBA
2 x A320
LGW
8 x A321
1 x A320
1 x A332
2 x B757
LTN
2 x A321
3 x A320
MAN
7 x A321
2 x A320
1 x A332
1 x B757
That gives a total of 26 x A321, 10 x A320, 2 x A332, 3 x B757 which makes 41 Aircraft leaving 1 x A321 as spare A/C. There has been a few changes in the schedules since I looked so there could have been a slight reshuffle of the A321/A320 fleets around bases but I dont expect any changes to B757/A332 allocations.
BHX
7 x A321
2 x A320
EMA
2 x A321
LBA
2 x A320
LGW
8 x A321
1 x A320
1 x A332
2 x B757
LTN
2 x A321
3 x A320
MAN
7 x A321
2 x A320
1 x A332
1 x B757
That gives a total of 26 x A321, 10 x A320, 2 x A332, 3 x B757 which makes 41 Aircraft leaving 1 x A321 as spare A/C. There has been a few changes in the schedules since I looked so there could have been a slight reshuffle of the A321/A320 fleets around bases but I dont expect any changes to B757/A332 allocations.