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Old 12th Oct 2012, 02:29
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WIFI is now being trialled on FBW fleet. Don't know how far along, I presume it is a biproduct of the EFB?
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Old 12th Oct 2012, 05:35
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CabinCrewe, in terms of service, Thomson offerings are far below that of Monarch who continue to offer a basic requirement such as in flight meals and not cardboard food!

In relation to ageing aircraft, I often hear this argument but I point out what is worse- an older aircraft maintained to the highest levels or a young fleet who are being pushed to their limits day in and day out and ageing far quicker?
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Old 12th Oct 2012, 17:52
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Grrr

I flew on a 19 year old Monarch Airbus this year, it was older than the First Officer (well he looked that old)! No different to the 6 month old Ryanair 737 we flew on a month later (First Office looked considerably older than 26 weeks). Mind you, if Ryanair keep landing them that hard the airframes won't last 19 years!
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 09:25
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Good to see!!

Monarch saw passenger numbers increase by 19% year-on-year in August, to 748,325, while capacity increased by 16.5% and load factor improved by 1.7% points. Kevin George, managing director, said: ‘Achieving a load factor of 94.5%, well above the industry norm, is an excellent result for the airline.’
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 10:06
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Without a doubt, the MRO facilities and maintenance standards Monarch have, are at for both its own airline and other customers are top class and probably close to world leading. I think only Lufthansa were rated as better in Europe.

No qualms about a 24 year old B757 or 22 year old A300 or A320.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 14:40
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Well said that man.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 16:10
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Sharm El Sheikh

Two more new routes start this week from BHX with Funchal (Or should I say Madeira, which Monarch use in the booking engine) tomorrow but the one I am more interested in is Sharm El Sheikh.

I know from further back in this thread there is a sub-fleet of A321's fitted with a centre tank I believe and I was wondering if this has this been extended to all the A321 fleet? I realise a sub-fleet of four is probably enough to cover the current bases, as BHX for example is twice weekly.

Also is it possible for the A320 to operate SSH-BHX or MAN, I know Thomson use 738's from various stations and they obviously have the legs for it.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 16:39
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I liked the Monarch livery on the 767 when they had one.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 17:37
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OltonPete & mgy2k90

They are not rolling it out across the A321 Fleet.
However "ZBR" becomes operational with an ACT fitted on 2nd November and "ZBG" 12th November.
wifi is not being trailed on the FBW fleet and it has nothing to do with the EFB.
One A321 a/c is going to fitted with wifi on a trail basis to see if it makes money, if not, that will be it.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 18:50
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I wouldn't disagree with MR @ SpottyM. If anybody knows what is going on with the fleet it is him.
My bad ,is this a comment on the former MY travel organisation?
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 18:58
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I haven't disagreed with him. I am just putting out there what I have been told/seen, him giving me feedback is what I am looking for. Everybody at MON knows whats going on in the fleet, to an extent, some just know a little more than others.
This is a rumour network, I'm trying to find out how true the rumours are and if anything I have seen can be confirmed by the likes of spotty.
Thank you
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 19:36
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If you are that interested then perhaps you should visit our private forum and ask the fleet manager. The A330 doesn't have the efb fitted.
There is no mention in any of the efb newsletters that have been issued by the project pilot of using the pax wifi for access

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 20:13
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OP, A320 SSH ops are fine from MAN and ok from BHX with a max 7 seat restriction inbound depending on conditions.
mgy2k90, as for the upcoming wifi trial this has absolutely nothing to do with EFB and that's as much as you will learn for now. Mr @ Spotty M is spot on, as usual!

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Old 14th Oct 2012, 20:25
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Grrr

"And the point of talking about the FOs age was...?"

I have no idea of his age, he looked young, but then again so did I once. Not doubting his abilities, just a comparison between the age of the airframe. I would challenge anyone to think that it left Toulouse for the first time over 18 years ago.

Having flown in a BA 767 fairly recently, that DID look its age of 23 years! The FO on that flight had a grey beard, so probably a bit older than the airframe.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 20:28
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Thank you for confirming that. I shall have to put my sources straight then. Always good to have one over on somebody...
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 20:40
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SSH

TartinTon & Mr @ Spotty M

Thank you for the replies, I am sure SSH will do the buisness subject to the political situation remaining stable.

In the main still cracking loads on most routes at BHX, hopefully onwards and upwards.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 23:45
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And still no shortage of pax to SSH, recession? What recession.
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Old 21st Oct 2012, 17:26
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So, as mentioned earlier on this thread, Monarch want to expand their short haul scheduled network with maybe another dozen aircraft added to the fleet. And the long haul routes being phased out.

In my humble opinion, its totally the wrong course considering the amount of competition from its main bases into mainland Europe from the powerhouses easyJet and Ryanair. For me, long haul routes should be maintained and expanded. I also believed it was wrong to cancel the B787 order.

So, what routes/gaps in the market are currently "available"; with no real competition from EZY/FR? Any ideas what these potential new destinations could be?

For me, I'd expand to...
  1. Boa Vista - Cape Verde Islands
  2. Marrakech - Morocco
  3. Djerba - Tunisia
  4. Luqa - Malta
  5. Funchal - Portugal
Any more?
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Old 21st Oct 2012, 17:48
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Not convinced by Cape Verde. This has been cut from some programs and gets very mixed reviews as a resort. Malta is old news and has seen reductions rather than growth. North Africa improving but still a bit "iffy".
I do think they missed a trick with the 787 but with APD etc and less drastic cuts on long haul by TCX than expected, perhaps they did their sums correctly.
Most have consolidated on the major long haul centres rather than develop new "long thin leisure". A 787 would be wasted on any of Monarch's medium haul.
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Old 21st Oct 2012, 18:30
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Funchal

Dannyboy39

Funchal started last Monday from BHX, just weekly to start but then goes twice weekly from the winter schedule.

Malta

I thought they might go for this from BHX this winter as Ryanair were very late releasing their BHX flights.

Marrakech - BHX has never had a schedule to RAK and could be one for the future

There was talk about a year ago of a link with Air Europa and I half-expect a BHX-Madrid and that route is still unserved.
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