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Old 18th Nov 2013, 16:31
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The A300's have served Monarch very well. Sad to see them go.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 16:47
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Flew on the A300 from Dublin to Faro in 2002 when I was just 17 seems a long time ago now and the A300 I was on although I have no idea of the reg must have been nearly 12 years old then and they still looked new! Great aircraft and both served and represented Monarch and its brand well back then, just goes to show when an airline maintains aircraft well they will last a very long time. Time for the A300 to go to sleep now so to speak.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 17:32
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Cheers mky, we talking a couple of years or good 5+?
I'm not sure how long the A330's will last but What I do remember is that they were apparently looking for some new long haul aircraft, so I presume they will go around then. I think as well because of the large order for 60 aircraft about to come through which I assume will replace all Monarch aircraft except for the 2 new A320's and 2 new A321's which joined earlier this year

Still hope that there will be a trip on the A300 before they go Monarch are the last European operator of the A300 and some sort of trip on one of them would be amazing I'm sure spottilludrop would like to go on it too
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 19:56
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The B757s will be gone this time next year and the A330 will be around until 2018.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 23:20
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New Long Haulers...

I'm not sure how long the A330's will last but What I do remember is that they were apparently looking for some new long haul aircraft, so I presume they will go around then.
I wouldn't be surprised if Monarch quit Long Haul ops...

With the tour operators doing nearly all their operations in-house now, there seems to be little need for an airline like Monarch to offer their A330's for charters.

We have seen the A330's used more and more on flights to Egypt and Canaries in the last year or two, and going back 5-10 years ago, these aircraft were maxxed out flying long haul routes, and even had to supplement the fleet with a DC-10 and 767 for several summers.

While I am sure the airline operates the aircraft profitiably, does it really make sense going forward to operate a small sub-fleet of 2-4 aircraft... Especially if the airline wants to focus on LCC routes within Europe and North Africa.

I do sometimes wonder, if the airline did order some wide bodied aircraft, if they could possibly go down the path similar to Norwegian, and start flying Low Cost Long Haul routes. But this is high risk and Monarch are usually quite a conservative airline.

If the airline did want to get rid of their A330's soon, I am sure Air Transat would jump on them in a shot! They are after second hand A330's to replace the A310's and grow the fleet too.
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 11:49
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2018 eh .. thanks spotty.
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 16:46
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Well Well Well. Look what I just received by email:
Dear Enthusiast,

I’m sure you are already very much aware, that Monarch Airlines will be retiring our A300-605R fleet in early 2014. The aircraft came in to service with Monarch in 1990, was our first widebody aircraft, and has served both the airline and the travelling public for well over two decades.

Monarch are the last European passenger operator of Airbus’ first entry in to the commercial airline sector. The aircraft’s retirement in April 2014 will be a sad occasion at Monarch as we wave goodbye to an aircraft that has flown in our colours for longer than most of our crews have. It will also mark a turning point for the company, as we re-fleet and introduce more modern aircraft.

To mark the occasion of the aircraft’s retirement from service, Monarch are considering our options with regards a farewell flight which we would open up to Enthusiasts, with the intention of hosting a VIP reception in Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd’s new Birmingham hangar, a milestone achievement for our sister company.

The proposed event would feature a short flight, departing from and arriving back in to Birmingham International Airport (BHX), hopefully with passengers disembarking directly in to the new, three-bay hangar for a farewell celebration.

I must stress that no event is confirmed, and at this stage, I have been tasked simply with gauging the interest of the Enthusiast Community in attending this proposed event. If you would be interested in attending our Birmingham-based event in very late March, or very early April 2014, I would love to hear back from you with an idea on the numbers that you may be attending with. An idea on pricing would follow in due course, if the event is confirmed and we have finalised all of the appropriate arrangements.

I look forward to your responses, and thank you for your patience while we try to get something arranged. If you have friends that may be interested in the event, but may not be on my mailing list, I would appreciate you forwarding this e-mail to them, or sharing the proposal on any aviation forums you may use.

Thank you for your time.

Kind Regards

Toby Hillier
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 16:57
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Birmingham jeeze? No thanks.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 06:35
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Seem to be missing an opportunity here. I'm not going to drive a couple of hours to Birmingham to fly to Birmingham, regardless of what else is involved.

The trips to Gibraltar and Milan were great and I'd do similar again, but not this.

Stick it on a regular schedule to Nice or Venice (where ever you can do a day return, even if it's only one way and the return is on a narrow body) - that's what'll be of interest, get bums on seats, nice photo opportunities, nice magazine articles and all round good PR for Monarch.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 08:50
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Birmingham???

What connection does this aircraft have with Birmingham?
Surely LGW or MAN (or both) where the A300s spent most of their lives.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 09:04
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Get over it people, at least Monarch are offering you something. If you dont like the thought of travelling to BHX it obviously isnt for you, surely a centrally located departure point is the most sensible solution.
And yes I was there the day NR landed. No I'm not sad to see them go.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 09:15
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Forgive me for being rude here ladies but Monarch have run these enthusiast days from Luton, Gatwick, Manchester/Gatwick and now its Birminghams turn, and I for one will be attending... I travelled from Staffordshire to Luton for Gibraltar and had a great (long) day out

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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 09:16
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If you dont like the thought of travelling to BHX
You're right it is a good central location, and right again that they're offering something as opposed to nothing... but given what they've come up with in the past, this is a little less likely to appeal to the many.

Spot the Monarch employee ;-)
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 09:19
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I think Birmingham has been chosen to show-off their new Maintenance facility to the general public. Good thinking.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 10:33
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G-AZUK I dont think there is anything to get over, If you read the post it says he is looking for feedback wherever the message is posted. Well the feedback so far seems to be no thanks not from Birmingham (especially not for a flight right back to Birmingham). Nothing wrong with that.. Just helping the guy out.

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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 10:54
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I think its a great idea, and as a departure point i cant think of anything better (however bias that may be ) Although granted a trip to another airfield across Europe would be better still, beggars cant be choosers and if this is the last chance to get on this aircraft (would be my first trip on an A300) then so be it.

I also would love a tour of the new hangar and can understand why they want to show it off.... Its quite an impressive looking building.

First post from this brum based spotter BTW!
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 12:05
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Not much of an enthusiast if the fact that the flight will be from BHX is an issue...
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 12:21
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Nothing to "get over" G-UK.

I'm surprised that the enthusiast final flight, for an aircraft which has spent all its operational life at LGW and MAN, would be from and to BHX.

I don't get the argument of "showing off" the new hangar to the public either; people booking this flight will be doing so for the Airbus A306, not particularly to see a new hangar and many will have been round Luton or Manchester hangar facilities on previous enthusiast flights anyway; a hangar is a hangar, is a hangar...

If feedback is genuinely being sought, then I would suggest the flight is arranged around MAN and/or LGW and leave the "look at our new hangar" for another occasion.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 12:25
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Not much of an enthusiast if the fact that the flight will be from BHX is an issue...
Another stupid post from another employee, strange how some people just can't take any constructive comments without biting. "Nowt as queer as folk" as the saying goes.
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Old 22nd Nov 2013, 12:48
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Surely if Monarch are just running one enthusiasts flight, then Birmingham is the logical choice, half way between Manchester and Gatwick.
You'd moan just as much if it was the other end of the country rather than in the middle.

I agree with above, probably trying to show the huge new maintenance facilities. Something I'd have thought most spotters would have enjoyed a poke around.

Just no pleasing some people! How about just saying thanks!!!
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