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Old 28th Apr 2017, 12:10
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Back to my post- anyone got a delivery schedule for the 738 MAXs and the end of leases for Airbuses - they are all schedule between Q1 '18 and '20.

I am concerned about the rate of expansion of Jet2 - there can't be enough "new market" to sustain what they are doing so they must be banking on taking market from someone.

Monarch were advertising in Daily Telegraph travel supplement last Saturday and not much Jet2 advertising there - perhaps the first thing to do is to protect your key market- keep the "slivers" on board.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 12:21
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I'm surprised that Monarch don't make more use of their already established Vantage FF scheme, it appears to have fallen down the list of priorities. Almost looks like it could be phased out (?)
It is certainly an opportunity to retain custom, if it were slightly more beneficial and promoted.
If you book a Monarch Holiday- you don't accrue any Vantage miles on your Monarch flight & also I found, that specific seat reservations were more expensive if you are on a Monarch holiday booking rather than a flight only.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 12:24
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Succession planning

Originally Posted by ATNotts
Rather reminiscent of Morrisons, an excellently run regional business, controlled from to to bottom by Ken Morrison. When he stepped down and (allegedly) profession retail management brought in, they darn near sent an erstwhile successful business into oblivion.
Spider's web style of management. The spider sits at the centre of the web and controls everything. When the spider dies, the company also tends to go into decline. It's hard for the spider to let go, but succession planning should be foremost in Phillip Meeson's mind if he wishes his company to continue to flourish.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 19:44
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Philip Meeson is the Executive Chairman (whatever that means) these days. Steve Heapy is Chief Executive and Phil Ward is Managing Director. The latter two largely run Jet2 day to day and I expect they will assume full responsibility at some point in the future. PM has his finger on the pulse in the meantime, plus I believe he is the majority shareholder in Dart Group.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 19:59
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I thought this was supposed to be the Monarch thread not Jet2. Could we please get back to discussions about Monarch please.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 10:43
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Have to say, Having used both jet 2 and monarch numerous times if jet 2 can make a success of things with its tired shabby old aircraft and somewhat pikey image im sure monarch can
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 18:06
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the posters on busses all over the UK
passed a bus today on the A9 heading north at Drumochter with a Monarch ad on the side.

Not quite sure who they are trying to reach up here
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 18:50
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His effectiveness as a CEO will diminish rapidly as he ages
its tired shabby old aircraft and somewhat pikey image
Must have the opposition worried when they stoop to lazy, casual ageism and racism?
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 07:17
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Anybody know why the ZB935 went Tech Last night in TFS, A320 G-ZBAR on the ground overnight with A321 G-ZBAJ going to rescue this morning?
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 10:08
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Jet2 aircraft are far from shabby and don`t get the pikey image either
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 11:11
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Half of the last 18 posts have been either about Jet2 or something unrelated to Monarch.
Could you guys please get on the RIGHT thread !
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 13:16
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As a Monarch employee it's sad to see that a few posters are very anti Monarch and clearly have some agenda at work. It's obvious they don't know what they are talking about but that's the problem with social media, everyone has an opinion and can share it for free anonymously! I bet if they had to put their real names at the end of every post, 99% would shut the hell up!!
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 14:16
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Too right they would!
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 14:27
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monarch

My original post was not to incite a monarch bashing or did it mention any other company.

I do working in travel and a big fan of Monarch and "other airlines". As a regular traveller on Monarch my consumer confidence was dashed abit by last year's events. I was merely looking for some substance to reassure myself. Unfortunately a big aircraft order doesn't cut it with me. I will continue to book with and support monarch even if I'm hesitant.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 16:42
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The CAA are happy with Monarch's progress, that is all you need to know. End of!
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 20:01
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BHX Arrivals

Just to go off at a different angle here are the Monarch BHX arrivals tonight:-

Madrid
Oporto
Stockholm
Lisbon
Venice
Barcelona
Rome
Gibraltar
Larnaca
Alicante.

Firstly there are ten arrivals already despite only 5 departures this morning and secondly note quite a change of direction with 7 destinations often used as city breaks although some double as sun routes.

I am not saying if this is right or wrong but as a BHX watcher it is an interesting change with Madrid is back despite year-round competition from Iberia and Ryanair (although Norwegian have gone), Oporto which was reintroduced by Ryanair before Monarch announced and of course the out of left-field Stockholm route. Certainly a lively summer at BHX ahead.

I wish them well.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 20:50
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I think the move into city break territory is certainly a good move at BHX and while I still think Stockholm might have been a bit of a gamble I think Valencia, Naples and Porto should do well.


It will be interesting to see where MON go next at - out of the current network I think only Verona and Zagreb are the only routes they don't serve from BHX so they could be contenders for new routes.


Valencia was a complete curveball and so perhaps MON might try something a bit different - Milan? Seville? Riga?
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 21:09
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Is the 737-800 to be crewed by Monarch or Pegasus? I imagine it will be Monarch given the impending arrival of their own Boeing a/c?
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 21:46
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It will be Monarch crew Liam. From what I have seen their crew have been receiving training in readiness for the NG joining.

Re: Valencia, does anyone in the know have any indication as to bookings? Appreciate cannot share confidential info but I am not sure Valencia has received the same level of marketing as other new routes.
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Old 1st May 2017, 05:08
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Originally Posted by Beanjet
My original post was not to incite a monarch bashing or did it mention any other company.

I do working in travel and a big fan of Monarch and "other airlines". As a regular traveller on Monarch my consumer confidence was dashed abit by last year's events. I was merely looking for some substance to reassure myself. Unfortunately a big aircraft order doesn't cut it with me. I will continue to book with and support monarch even if I'm hesitant.
Why on earth would you be "hesitant" about booking with a carrier such as monarch??
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