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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:11
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What the hell are people on about????
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:17
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Hopefully there is no truth in this & it's pure speculation - Flights are still bookable on the website as of five minutes ago.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:25
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It's vicious speculation and rumours! I work for Monarch and none of my colleagues are aware of this. Honestly have people got nothing better to do that spread idle and unfounded rumours!!??

We are as busy as ever and crews are working flat out in some cases!

I honestly believe some of these rumours are peddled by our competitor airlines who would rather we just disppaeared! Well sunshine boys we are staying put!!
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:31
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It appears the CAA have charted 2xUnited 744s, an Omni 767 and an Air Transat A330 to operate a series of flights over the next 7 todays to/from the UK to typical bucket and spade destinations.

All the flights are flying into the UK full, but ferrying back out empty then returning full again.

This type of operation is only ever seen after the collapse of a major tour operator/airline.

A lot of the United Airlines 744 schedules tie in directly with Monarch scheduled flights.

Make of this what you will
And your source is? Put up or shut up.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:31
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750XL - I remember the XL collapse and that was a complete nightmare.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:39
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All those flights are in system SWBKCB, first ones tomorrow. I've posted a small selection only above.

If the UAL, Omni, TSC flights are happening is not speculation...they are real, 100%...the reason for them is where the guess work is coming into it.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:41
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Feel sorry for those monarch crew I'm hoping this isn't true.
Crews are always last to find out as if you knew you wouldn't fly today for them but if CAA maybe about to pull the plug then
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:46
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750XL - How do you know these flights have been 'suddenly arranged' they may have been arranged months ago..
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:52
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They only popped up back end of last week. Since the initial 1 x UAL 744 it is now 2 (PMI / TFS), Air Transat 330's and Omni Air 777 (BCN) also thrown in today...it's a growing list...all one thing in common...UK to Spain empty and returning full.

Could it be another airline / tour operator involved ? It'd be devastating if it were MON
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:54
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Have some respect for Monarchs employees.
Seeing as you're so quick to get this information out there, please confirm to everyone what it is you do within the industry to be able to obtain such solid facts?
Whether you work in the industry or not is no excuse for releasing statements like that.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 16:55
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Crosswind limits, I think you will find that your colleagues at other airlines, regardless of whether the rumour is true or not, will be thinking of you guys this evening. Many of those colleagues will have been through an airline/employer collapse before and will not wish this upon you. I don't believe rumours would be peddled on a corporate level either.

The fact that your flights are busy and you are working flat out does not necessarily mean anything. There is obviously something going on and I keep my fingers crossed.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 17:02
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750XL - I've no doubt the flights are operating but where does
It appears the CAA have charted....
come from?

Also a little odd that only North American operators are being quoted - no EU capacity?
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 17:05
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Normally you would expect HiFly, but a lot of their aircraft are operating for ELAL, and Blue Panorama are operating flights for Norwegian, so maybe a shortage of aircraft over here. Yes, agree its strange its all US aircraft, and all large aircraft at that.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 17:27
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Monarch Airlines denies rumours it is going bust amid passenger fears | The Independent
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 17:35
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Omni N477AX is about to land at Naples right now too.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 17:47
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Air Transat A330 due out of MAN tomorrow to AGP as the TS255P, back as the TS255.

Incidentally the same 3 numbers as Monarchs AGP
I thought the AGP numbers were ZB652/653 for the morning and ZB654/655 in the afternoon/evening?
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 18:04
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A great shame if it happens, have flown many times with them. Would of expected them to be a prime takeover target....

It would be one of most organised winding down I have ever seen and its why I don't really believe it.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 18:07
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I know someone flying AGP-MAN Tuesday PM. They have been made aware the flight number is now TSC655. Monarch denying these flights are not to do with them is now disproven beyond doubt.
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 18:09
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Greybull??

I have been wondering if this is more to do with the owners Greybull.Their company website has suddenly acquired a rather sparse look about it, considering they have so many irons in the fire: Greybull Capital

Rather limited for a company that acquired a large part of Tata Steel in June this year don`t you think..I hope these rumours are without substance but if not then lets hope Monarch is a viable entity, which I think it is and can be sold on/management buyout etc.

Massive political headache for the Government though if true
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 18:18
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A company is obligated to trade up until the following are activated at the SAME time for a PLC a statement to the city and appointment of the receivers. This typically happens about 07.30 UK time for many GB businesses.

The elephant in the room here is Grey Bull they may be about to pull the plug - they have been looking for a buyer for some time and they want their money for their next venture "steel"

Grey Bull may have given the CAA early warning

Just a quick heads up right now Monarch has just three scheduled departures from the UK left today to Ibiza from Manchester/Gatwick and Birmingham. If these leave on time and are a back over night by 7.30am ALL the fleet should back in the UK real tragedy emerging if true.
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