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Old 11th Apr 2017, 08:46
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The leased 738 from Pegasus(??) has been painted. Doesn't look too bad in ZB colours.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 08:51
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Where is it at the moment? Birmingham?
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 08:52
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It's going to be based at BHX, not sure of it's current location. Just seen a pic passed from a friend
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 08:56
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Doing a bit of digging, looks like it is at EMA - arrived last week along with a sister... TC-ABP
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 11:51
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738

Jethro has it as TC-AAY which appeared to do an air-test out of Istanbul SAW yesterday.

The Monarch schedule is now showing the 738 in certain booking engines but the seat-map is 174 which is that of the A320. Is this deliberate for late aircraft changes or just not updated?

Monday: Faro am & Dalman pm
Tuesday: Tenerife am & Palma pm
Wednesday: Mahon am & Dalman pm
Thursday: Rome am & Alicante pm
Friday: Lisbon am & Madrid pm
Saturday: Tenerife am & Malaga pm
Sunday: Faro am & Lisbon pm
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 15:16
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Would this be the image by any chance?
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 09:02
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monarch

With the drama of last year, Have monarch found a buyer or sourced enough funding to take them beyond summer 17?
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 15:34
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I'd be surprised if Monarch are still here in two years to be honest
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 17:22
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Not sure a buyer is so urgent with the sale/lease deal done with Boeing - and Greybull have the money if they want to put it into Monarch.

Have lost track of delivery dates but what will the fleet look like this time next year with 737s vs Airbus?

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Old 27th Apr 2017, 17:53
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and Greybull have he money if they want to put it into Monarch
At some point, Greybull may take a similiar view to the Mantegazza family - namely that continually pumping money into an airline with little sign of a good return on the investment is not always worthwhile
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 20:24
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The Mantegazza family had over forty years of taking money out of the group and transforming themselves from simple ferrymen on a Swiss lake to billionaires.
Looking at beanjets other posts I can only surmise that they hold some sort of affection for Jet2 , and the latter wish that Monarch were gone.
750xl doesn't strike me as a serious financial professional and their prognosis should also be treated with contempt.
How desperate must the Jet2 staff be about their own futures if they wish to spread poisonous rumours such as this?
My own prognosis. Phillip Meeson is Approaching his seventieth birthday and negotiates personally almost all contracts affecting the Dart Group. His effectiveness as a CEO will diminish rapidly as he ages and he has not cultivated an heir to replace him. The Group will hit a brick wall whenever anything happens to him and with his age that day cannot be far away.

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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:04
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Another paranoid Monarch Fanboy/Employee in total denial again I see
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:21
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Little like the total denial of the following aircraft being anything to do with Monarch...


2x United 744's
1x Atlas Air 744
2x Omni 762's
1x Omni 772
1x Miami Air 738
1x Air Transat 332
1x Air Transat 310


However as soon as the CAA deal was done they all went home...
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:23
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Perhaps you would like to post some substance of what I am denying, because at the moment you are just beimg mendacious The96er.
Looking at the amount of posters coming out of the swamp to attack Monarch I must have touched a raw nerve. It is hard to understand the loyalty to Philip M as he doesn't have it for his workforce, and I used to work for him. That is probably where I got my paranoia from!!
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:36
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I don't see the makings of a big conspiracy - I just see yet another legacy airline that struggled to find its place in the modern world.

The current big difference between Jet2 and Monarch is marketing, but of course Monarch probably can't afford much in the way of marketing and the events of last year weren't helpful.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:40
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You have obviously missed the television advertising,radio advertising, the posters on busses all over the UK, posters on the tube etc etc...I don't think that you are qualified to make judgements on Monarch's advertising budget.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:51
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I've been battered by far more Jet2 advertising.

But if there's a qualification in being a consumer that I could take then I'm interested to hear about it.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:55
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This Monarch employee bought a bundle of Dart group shares last year and is enjoying the ride, so thanks for working so hard.

Regarding Monarch, we ain't going anywhere, yet. The company is leaner and the planes are fuller. I'm in no doubt a sale/takeover will be on the cards further down the line. But I don't have a crystal ball.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 09:54
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My own prognosis. Phillip Meeson is Approaching his seventieth birthday and negotiates personally almost all contracts affecting the Dart Group. His effectiveness as a CEO will diminish rapidly as he ages and he has not cultivated an heir to replace him. The Group will hit a brick wall whenever anything happens to him and with his age that day cannot be far away.
Rather reminiscent of Morrisons, an excellently run regional business, controlled from to to bottom by Ken Morrison. When he stepped down and (allegedly) profession retail management brought in, they darn near sent an erstwhile successful business into oblivion.
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Warren Buffet, George Soros and several others are going strong in their eighties. But I agree that succession planning is the task that entrepreneurs are worst at. The skill set needed to run a mature business is quite different from that needed to create one.
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