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GF: While I agree they seem to have given up somewhat on Bhx, they did nontheless and rather surprisingly add BUD this year, and will continue it through the winter.
What does surprise me is that they do not maintain FAO throughout the winter. Loadings always seem good on this route, but as to the yield, I do not have any idea. Maybe that's the reason.
What does surprise me is that they do not maintain FAO throughout the winter. Loadings always seem good on this route, but as to the yield, I do not have any idea. Maybe that's the reason.
ZB take up position as biggest 'loco'
I think that the old terms "no frills" is more appropriate to differentiate the lower end of the market from the better carriers today.
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Air Transat fly in on Wednesdays - if it was I can only think it must have been a Thomas Cook sub as it come from Manchester direction. It sounded big but disappeared into the clouds to quick.
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ATNotts - if you book a through ticket then I think the full APD is charged. However, if you book separate tickets then only the UK- Europe APD is charged. I do this regularly by booking long-haul Business Class from Europe and buying a separate economy ticket to the European hub. Baggage can be interlined without any problem but, of course, you do have to allow a lengthy connection time to cater for any delays.
Madrid - Iberia have cancelled the MAN and GLA services to MAD as from the end of August / mid September. Not much hope then of attracting them to BHX.
Madrid - Iberia have cancelled the MAN and GLA services to MAD as from the end of August / mid September. Not much hope then of attracting them to BHX.
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More good news for legacy airlines at Birmingham. Turkish will be increasing their daily flights to 10 per weekly from the start of Summer 13 schedules. Extra flights will operate on Monday, Thursday and Sundays departing from BHX late afternoon. Flights are in the TK booking system 
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Madrid - Iberia have cancelled the MAN and GLA services to MAD as from the end of August / mid September. Not much hope then of attracting them to BHX.
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Iberia - am I being too cynical?
Is it too cynical to suggest that IAG would rather have people from GLA and MAN connect to flights via LHR than MAD and perhaps that is why the flights have been cancelled? Do LHR and MAD offer connections to entirely different markets so that there is no overlap i.e. is traffic going to instead of going to LHR?
GLA (at 2 per week) always seemed a half-hearted attempt to get into the MAD market. MAN was, of course, better at daily (I think) but surely multi-daily services from both airports were really needed to make use of the connections at MAD?
Just a thought. Perhaps that's why there was also never any BHX-MAD service: IAG would prefer customers to journey down to LHR themselves.
I also find it curious that BA themselves (through CitiExpress and BACON) maintained a BHX-MAD link for some years but now there seems to be no market for anyone to give it a go?
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GLA (at 2 per week) always seemed a half-hearted attempt to get into the MAD market. MAN was, of course, better at daily (I think) but surely multi-daily services from both airports were really needed to make use of the connections at MAD?
Just a thought. Perhaps that's why there was also never any BHX-MAD service: IAG would prefer customers to journey down to LHR themselves.
I also find it curious that BA themselves (through CitiExpress and BACON) maintained a BHX-MAD link for some years but now there seems to be no market for anyone to give it a go?
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What I find hard to understand is how Lufthansa, Air France, KLM, Swiss, SAS, Turkish and to a lesser extent TAP, Finnair and even Icelandair can offer multiple daily services to their various hubs from UK regional airports, yet somehow Iberia can't fill x9 CRJ's a week?
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Other thing to note that all the MAN-MAD services on the 3 airlines were timed for late afternoon/early evening. Down to 1 airline from October and it's the airline I daresay MAN had hope would not be the surviving one on this route. They and U2 don't really need advertising. I can barely recall any advertising by IB.. even MAN themselves didn't bother themselves with promoting the route.
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What I find hard to understand is how Lufthansa, Air France, KLM, Swiss, SAS, Turkish and to a lesser extent TAP, Finnair and even Icelandair can offer multiple daily services to their various hubs from UK regional airports, yet somehow Iberia can't fill x9 CRJ's a week?
Always though it was utter madness at MAN to go from none to three airlines to MAD and all within a few hours of each other! At least it knocks the BHX-MAD rumours on the head with IB. Depending on success of IB Express they could be possible in the future to serve MAN, BHX maybe GLA but they use the A320 which is a big old bird to fill profitably on a city route from BHX at least.
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I would have imagined IB to be targeting business/connecting traffic and leaving FR and EZY to pick up leisure/O&D. Surprising that IB have given up but TAP seem to be doing well. Either way it doesn't look like MAD-BHX will be happening anytime soon.
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Positive news
There are routes that BHX doesn't have MAD is one of them, however maybe we should look at the glass being half full? There have been a raft of new route announcements by both no-frills and legacy airlines and increases on existing routes. There will be negligible loss of seats when BMIBaby closes the situation at Birmingham could be a lot worse. Maybe as Birmingham Airport supporters and commentators we should be happy that things are moving in the right direction?
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Very interesting about MAD services, and not just from BHX. However as this is a BHX thread, no-one seems to have explained why BA were able to fly daily BHX-MAD for many years all year round, orginally on 737's then A319's and finally RJ100's (that tells a story in itself).....so where did the pax go?
I think One World, being the smallest network, is no surprise! LH and Star are just mopping up out of UK's big regional airports, BA? I just don't understand the policy???? I'm happy to stick with Miles & More.....excellent service and global reach from BHX!!
I think One World, being the smallest network, is no surprise! LH and Star are just mopping up out of UK's big regional airports, BA? I just don't understand the policy???? I'm happy to stick with Miles & More.....excellent service and global reach from BHX!!