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Old 2nd May 2012, 23:53
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Should be 4x75 and 2x73 for S13
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Old 3rd May 2012, 07:55
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Thomson Summer 13

Summer 2013 should see another 738 added to Bhx at the expense of a 757. So i think you should see 3 x 757 , 2 x 737-800 and a 763 for part of the week doing long haul.
On a seperate note, East Midlands will be all 738 from next summer onwards and Newcastle will also be seeing more 737 's too.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 09:41
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Monarch have announced 2 new services from BHX with immediate effect both 2x weekly to Dubrovnik & Heraklion. They will also operate these new services from LGW at x3 and x2 respectively. Good news for BHX it seems Monarch are investing.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 09:52
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Monarch have announced these routes to DBV and HER months ago, along with Milan, Venice, Rome that have already begun operating by the end of March.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 16:55
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Baby

So it would seem official, BBC News and the Baby thread reporting that Baby will cease all flights in Sept, from June all BHD flights plus BHX-NOC and BHX-AMS and a whole host from EMA are canned due to a/c leases expiring. The vultures are already cherry picking routes, so even if a buyer is found at the eleventh hour, how will the airline carry on? Confidence in them after this announcement will be shattered. So, following on from the BE news yesterday, ZB are now ramping up frequencies on BHX-AGP, PMI, FCO, ALC and introducing BCN. Also opening new base at EMA to serve WW bucket and spade routes.

Commercially speaking EMA has done very well out of this as an airport with two new based carriers in two days both of which enrich its airline portfolio. BHX am sure will see some more ZB expansion on the back of this and surely now this is finally the open door needed for EZY to step in/take over other former WW routes? This is a snippet from the ZB press release announcing the new base:

Monarch managing director Kevin George said: "In light of recent industry
changes, opportunities have opened up in the market. It has become clear that
the Midlands will be underserved as a region in the future, and that there is a
lack of quality carriers to serve customers travelling from the area.

"As
an airline with over 40 years heritage and a stronghold in the Midlands already,
the expansion of our existing services from Birmingham and the launch of
operations from East Midlands makes perfect sense for Monarch, and accelerates
the strategy we announced last year to focus on the development of our scheduled
operations into key leisure destinations across the Mediterranean, the Canaries
and North Africa."
Speaking personally, I am gutted that this has happened and my full sympathies go out to all the hard working Baby staff, I have had nothing but excellent service and flights from them and it is very sad to see the once illustrious British Midland/BMI name disappear. IMO it would seem to me as an outsider that they have been well and truly shafted. Good luck one and all and I will make sure that I get one last flight with you guys over the summer. A very sad day indeed
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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:03
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After WW impending demise.. Will we see Easyjet move in? After the announcement of BFS I can see them launching away based a/c from a number of routes and eventually, possible in time for summer 2013 a base.

I can also see Aer Lingus regional changing the mid morning Dub to Noc ASAP especially as this is what it was destined to be before WW ramped up Noc flights.

Good to see ZB expanding and taking BCN over and ramping flights up on Med routes..

Good luck to all WW employees.

And over the coming days n weeks we see the bhx marketing team doing some work on replacing WW at bhx

Regards

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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:11
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Baby Routes

It appears that the only major routes not covered at Birmingham are Lisbon, Prague and Knock.

It will be no suprise if the gap in the EI Shannon flights changes from Dublin to Knock.

Easy have already announced Belfast.

Monarch have announced Barcelona

That leaves Lisbon and Prague (possibly Ryanair).

Amsterdam could be left with KLM unless Flybe give it a go.

A sad situation with Baby.

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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:44
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Really sad news re Baby, used them on a few occasions and always had a good experience, hopefuly some expansion from flyBE, Monarch and dare we dream of Easy will open up some opportunities for those affected
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Old 3rd May 2012, 17:54
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Knock, Lisbon, Nice, Prague Will be unversed When Baby closes. Hopefully get these filled quickly.

Lets Hope Easy step in or further Monarch but doubt much with aircraft availability.

Barcelona now with Monarch so least this gap has been filled quickly

Could see Amsterdam being done by EZY and Nice which is a new EZY base.

Could see Lisbon on a Flybe 195 few rotations a week but not seen much from Flybe for a good while except Waterford.

Most likely Aer Lingus Regional will move the extra Dub rotation to NOC.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 20:15
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Agree with all the aforementioned route suggestions (come on EI move that ATR to NOC!) but think that PRG and LIS could potentially remain unserved. FR did serve PRG from BHX but had a spat with charges and haven't come back on the route. Wizz have a base there but thats wishful thinking

NCE could be an EZY contender being a base? LIS is a new EZY base too.......could this be a chance for that route. I hope and pray that the BHX marketing team are very hard at work courting EZY as I don't see all the gaps being filled by others at the moment. If they don't come, well there will be more unhealthy gaps in the BHX short haul network just when it was beginning to look a bit more patched up. With the unrelated to WW losses of LYS and GOT thats quite a few routes (and more importantly) pax gone.

The other thing to come out of this which could be seen to be worrying long term is that BHX now shares all its scheduled based operators with EMA, not just FR - I hope this doesn't mean a thin spreading and rationalisation of routes across the two which to a certain extent has happened with FR. On key routes there is solid demand for flights from both, its the more leisure orientated ones that could be a problem (am thinking BE French regional routes that could be cheaper to operate from EMA?) It is of course no coincidence that BE, ZB and now FR have significant ops at MAN who own EMA through MAG....this must mean landing fee deals at EMA?
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Old 3rd May 2012, 20:38
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Easyjet is also now the only Scheduled carrier to Geneva in W12. Could we see capacity increase from them or could we see a new carrier operating through the winter to Geneva as competition? A very popular winter destination.
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Old 4th May 2012, 10:41
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What have the loads for LIS and PRG been like? Really hope someone picks NCE up, have flown it a few times and the loads have always been excellent. I agree that EZY is the most likely candidate but could AF be interested in expanding their new base?

I hope that the BHX team are doing all they can to get some carriers on these routes; forget about China for a while and start being a bit more realistic. Would love to see EZY step in now and launch NCE, LIS, PRG, AMS and perhaps MAD aswell?
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forget about China for a while and start being a bit more realistic
Hear Hear!! Not that BHX shouldn't have lofty ambitions but taking your eye off the daily bread and butter (especially when one of your based carriers goes belly up) at the expense of spending millions trying (desperately?) to attract a weekly A340 with Chinese writing down the side is madness. If they are not in positive talks with EZY right now, as well as already based BE, ZB and FR then shame on them. EMA has bounced back almost immediately in terms of routes at least - at BHX apart from ZB taking on BCN nothing has happened.....yet?

LIS, NCE, PRG therefore outstanding at the mo with AMS left to KL (who might increase rotations?) and NOC hopefully to be picked up by EI Regional (many on the NOC thread see that as a certainty)
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Old 4th May 2012, 11:53
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and now Jet2 announce eight new routes from EMA (albeit nothing that isn't available from BHX apart from NCE at the mo) and one additional based a/c in Summer 2013, I can't keep up! 5 new based a/c and two new based airlines in the space of as many days. EZY conspicuous by their absence. Come on BHX!

EMA to Dubrovnik, Menorca, Nice, Ibiza, Larnaca and Gran Canaria and ski routes to Chambery and Geneva
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Old 4th May 2012, 13:27
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Looks like we will be busy at EMA, long time coming. Nice to see Monarch will be finally here, along with a bigger Flybe operation, oh and more Jet2 I hope BmiBaby staff will find new jobs at EMA
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Old 4th May 2012, 14:26
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Aer Lingus

The 10.00am ATR72 Dublin service has already been withdrawn from GDS and the Aer Lingus booking engine. It ends Friday 8 June.

I suspect Knock will be in as quick as the IT department can manage it.

Per the Monarch thread Tuesday next week has been mooted for the more route announcements.

It does seem to be an opportunity for easyjet but I suppose they can't just magic aircraft from nowhere but Belfast brought forward would be a start. However if they are interested in BHX the 2nd week in September might be possible.

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Per the Monarch thread Tuesday next week has been mooted for the more route announcements.
I wonder if these the new planned winter destinations? Have heard rumours of Madeira being launched from BHX. What I'd like to know is where the extra aircraft are coming from; BHX will be getting another x2 frames. I wonder if the planned retirement of the A300's, 757's and the one A320 could be delayed yet again? Of perhaps they'll pick up the rest of the ex TOM/First Choice airbus fleet.
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Old 4th May 2012, 18:07
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LIS and PRG load factors have been in the high 70%'s low 80%s.
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Old 4th May 2012, 18:22
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ChinaPattern, i also raised the same query in the MON thread a few days ago. The new base at EMA is 1 AC, and they are also operating flights on behalf of TOM at LBA next summer, along with the BHX increases. So to be honest, i dont know where the aircraft will be coming from ?
It has been rumoured that the potential contenders for MON are BHX, LBA, EMA and CWL.
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Monarch

Cosmos website showing new routes from Birmingham

BHX-Funchal 2 x weekly starting October 15: ZB 982
BHX-Grenoble 3 x weekly starting December 15: ZB 5418
BHX-Munich 4 x weekly starting September 21: ZB 5464 [2 x weekly September + October]
BHX-Sharm El Sheik 2 x Weekly starting October 18: ZB 472
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