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No FR announcement is ever going to arise from the success of rugby flights. In essence these flights as they added in the Six Nations also, are basically charters, in the words of a certain someone from FR themselves.
Any airline that's hoping to cash in on these could have done the same, but FR was best placed to do so, and as a result i can predict that they along with some of the other carriers at CWL have made a very healthy financial return on these rugby flights.
Any airline that's hoping to cash in on these could have done the same, but FR was best placed to do so, and as a result i can predict that they along with some of the other carriers at CWL have made a very healthy financial return on these rugby flights.
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September figures:
September figures:
YYD: 1,063,310 (+1.4%)
Ad hoc charters or one off flights not shown unless included in monthly totals I.e. Rugby World Cup flights.
Domestic routes:
Aberdeen: not yet reported
Belfast City: 3,630 (0%)
Edinburgh: 9,106 (+76%)
Glasgow: 2,971 (-6%)
Jersey: 1,040 (-26%)
Newcastle: 1,309 (-5%)
International routes:
Cyprus:
Larnaca: 3,027 (-5%)
Paphos: 1,843 (+25%)
France:
Paris CDG: 4,962 (new route: ORY 09/14 1,684)
Germany:
Düsseldorf: 1,627 (+208%)
Munich: 2,502 (new route)
Greece:
Corfu: 1,467 (-3%)
Heraklion: 1,839 (-45%)
Kefalonia: 1,617 (-2%)
Kos: 1,447 (+2%)
Rhodes: 3,273 (+17%)
Zakynthos: 3,902 (-9%)
Ireland: inc rugby charters
Cork: 1,079 (new route)
Dublin: 14,463 (+167%)
Shannon: 537 (+367%)
Italy:
Milan Malpensa: 1,875 (new route)
Malta:
Malta: 1,556 (+1%)
Netherlands:
Amsterdam: 11,111 (+3%)
Portugal:
Faro: 4,039 (+177%)
Spain:
Alicante: 7,618 (+1%)
Barcelona: 2,867 (+39%)
Ibiza: 5,971 (+2%)
Mahon: 2,298 (-4%)
Malaga: 7,308 (+2%)
Palma: 16,482 (+31%)
Reus: 4,515 (+50%)
Spain - Canary Islands:
Arrecife: 4,335 (+49%)
Las Palmas: 1,483 (-20%)
Tenerife: 4,343 (+50%)
Turkey:
Antalya: 1,718 (new route)
Dalaman: 5,506 (-14%)
Bulgaria:
Bourgas: 2,523 (+3%)
Egypt:
Sharm El Sheikh: 1,240 (-8%)
Obviously I don't know about the yield side of things but it appears that the BE flights are doing very well for the second month of operation.
YYD: 1,063,310 (+1.4%)
Ad hoc charters or one off flights not shown unless included in monthly totals I.e. Rugby World Cup flights.
Domestic routes:
Aberdeen: not yet reported
Belfast City: 3,630 (0%)
Edinburgh: 9,106 (+76%)
Glasgow: 2,971 (-6%)
Jersey: 1,040 (-26%)
Newcastle: 1,309 (-5%)
International routes:
Cyprus:
Larnaca: 3,027 (-5%)
Paphos: 1,843 (+25%)
France:
Paris CDG: 4,962 (new route: ORY 09/14 1,684)
Germany:
Düsseldorf: 1,627 (+208%)
Munich: 2,502 (new route)
Greece:
Corfu: 1,467 (-3%)
Heraklion: 1,839 (-45%)
Kefalonia: 1,617 (-2%)
Kos: 1,447 (+2%)
Rhodes: 3,273 (+17%)
Zakynthos: 3,902 (-9%)
Ireland: inc rugby charters
Cork: 1,079 (new route)
Dublin: 14,463 (+167%)
Shannon: 537 (+367%)
Italy:
Milan Malpensa: 1,875 (new route)
Malta:
Malta: 1,556 (+1%)
Netherlands:
Amsterdam: 11,111 (+3%)
Portugal:
Faro: 4,039 (+177%)
Spain:
Alicante: 7,618 (+1%)
Barcelona: 2,867 (+39%)
Ibiza: 5,971 (+2%)
Mahon: 2,298 (-4%)
Malaga: 7,308 (+2%)
Palma: 16,482 (+31%)
Reus: 4,515 (+50%)
Spain - Canary Islands:
Arrecife: 4,335 (+49%)
Las Palmas: 1,483 (-20%)
Tenerife: 4,343 (+50%)
Turkey:
Antalya: 1,718 (new route)
Dalaman: 5,506 (-14%)
Bulgaria:
Bourgas: 2,523 (+3%)
Egypt:
Sharm El Sheikh: 1,240 (-8%)
Obviously I don't know about the yield side of things but it appears that the BE flights are doing very well for the second month of operation.
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Flybe
My alter ego posted these September Flybe figures in another forum. They are courtesy of the CAA and the load figures are based on the assumption that every timetabled flight operated that month. All flights were on one of the two based 118-seat E195s except where shown.
Glasgow 2971 passengers, load factor 57.2%
Edinburgh 9106, 68.9%
Cork 1079, 50.8%
Munich 2502, 50.5%
Milan Malpensa 1875, 61.1%
Paris Cdg 4962, 70.1%
Faro 2562, 90.5%
Jersey 1040, 51.0%*
Dusseldorf 1267, 34.3%**
* 2 JER rotations per week, one a Q400 the other an E195 with an additional E195 on the first two Saturdays of the month in question
** 4 DUS rotations per week with the Sat one a Q400; remainder E195
Belfast City 3630, 77.6%***
*** BHD is a longstanding daily route on the Q400
Could not establish the Dublin route load figures as it's shared with Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart).
Looking at CWL generally, with this month's rugby world cup flights expected to generate an additional 30,000 passengers according to the airport and the extra Flybe flights from the expanded base, it's very likely that October will see an increase of around 40,000 passengers (perhaps more) over October 2014.
That would take the rolling 12-month total close to or past the 1.1 million mark with the end of year total being higher still.
With next year's additional Vueling seats, the effect of the Flybe base for a full year and Thomson cruise flights to the UAE, 1.2 mppa might be reached for the calendar year of 2016, a figure not seen since 2011. That's not taking into account further announcements that may be in the pipeline.
Glasgow 2971 passengers, load factor 57.2%
Edinburgh 9106, 68.9%
Cork 1079, 50.8%
Munich 2502, 50.5%
Milan Malpensa 1875, 61.1%
Paris Cdg 4962, 70.1%
Faro 2562, 90.5%
Jersey 1040, 51.0%*
Dusseldorf 1267, 34.3%**
* 2 JER rotations per week, one a Q400 the other an E195 with an additional E195 on the first two Saturdays of the month in question
** 4 DUS rotations per week with the Sat one a Q400; remainder E195
Belfast City 3630, 77.6%***
*** BHD is a longstanding daily route on the Q400
Could not establish the Dublin route load figures as it's shared with Aer Lingus Regional (Stobart).
Looking at CWL generally, with this month's rugby world cup flights expected to generate an additional 30,000 passengers according to the airport and the extra Flybe flights from the expanded base, it's very likely that October will see an increase of around 40,000 passengers (perhaps more) over October 2014.
That would take the rolling 12-month total close to or past the 1.1 million mark with the end of year total being higher still.
With next year's additional Vueling seats, the effect of the Flybe base for a full year and Thomson cruise flights to the UAE, 1.2 mppa might be reached for the calendar year of 2016, a figure not seen since 2011. That's not taking into account further announcements that may be in the pipeline.
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Flights to Valley are currently being operated by a hired-in Danish Metroliner after links air have reportedly been grounded. Anyone have any idea what happened? (See Doncaster Thread)
https://twitter.com/Oliver__Clark/st...10124731838464
OY-NPF - Aircraft info and flight history - Flightradar24
https://twitter.com/Oliver__Clark/st...10124731838464
OY-NPF - Aircraft info and flight history - Flightradar24
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LinksAir and the North-South Wales link- this appears to have been discussed at the WAG today.
Cardiff-Anglesey air route 'another provider in place' - BBC News
and
LinksAir loses Cardiff-Anglesey airline safety licence - BBC News
Monday's flights cancelled, but OY-NPF has operated the flights since.
Cardiff-Anglesey air route 'another provider in place' - BBC News
and
LinksAir loses Cardiff-Anglesey airline safety licence - BBC News
Monday's flights cancelled, but OY-NPF has operated the flights since.
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Opening for Channel Islands?
I'd love to see either Aurigny or Blue Islands take on the route. Both have suitable types (Dornier and Jetstream) and could accommodate a Guernsey/Jersey rotation which would save a lot of people a journey to Bristol. Any views?
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I think Aurigny have enough problems with their Do228 fleet as it is too look outside the islands......
Blue Islands no longer operate the J31 either, which is a shame so it kind of narrows down a replacement carrier.
Are Links Air still responsible for selling the tickets ?? Can't see anything on their own webpage about recent events
Blue Islands no longer operate the J31 either, which is a shame so it kind of narrows down a replacement carrier.
Are Links Air still responsible for selling the tickets ?? Can't see anything on their own webpage about recent events
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/2176.pdf
Linksair are still responsible for ticketing, and AFAIK are the ones paying for the Metroliner to run the route at the moment, although I cannot see how they are making money on it as it cannot be cheap. Future operators?
Citywing - Used to run the route, and can easily get a 4th LET 410 off VAA to run it.
Loganair - BE have just opened a base at CWL, so they might want to have the extra route. I really hope this is the case and people can start connecting from Anglesey through CWL to Europe. Saab 340 likely too big so Twin Otter maybe? They still have G-BVVK.
Eastern Airways - Already have a presence at CWL, but I would imagine a J41 is too big for the route.
Aurigny - Seems unlikely as they are having enough problems with the Dorniers at the moment and what shot of the Tris.
Blue Islands - Nope, got rid of all their jetstreams and an ATR 42 is far too big.
North Flying - Currently running the route for links air. Could this be the new order for the route?
Basically, we need someone who operates J31s, Metroliners, Do228s, LET 410s, Twin Otters or anything else with 15-20 seats.
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Linksair are still responsible for ticketing, and AFAIK are the ones paying for the Metroliner to run the route at the moment, although I cannot see how they are making money on it as it cannot be cheap. Future operators?
Citywing - Used to run the route, and can easily get a 4th LET 410 off VAA to run it.
Loganair - BE have just opened a base at CWL, so they might want to have the extra route. I really hope this is the case and people can start connecting from Anglesey through CWL to Europe. Saab 340 likely too big so Twin Otter maybe? They still have G-BVVK.
Eastern Airways - Already have a presence at CWL, but I would imagine a J41 is too big for the route.
Aurigny - Seems unlikely as they are having enough problems with the Dorniers at the moment and what shot of the Tris.
Blue Islands - Nope, got rid of all their jetstreams and an ATR 42 is far too big.
North Flying - Currently running the route for links air. Could this be the new order for the route?
Basically, we need someone who operates J31s, Metroliners, Do228s, LET 410s, Twin Otters or anything else with 15-20 seats.
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Aurigny and Blue Islands also have restrictions on flying out side of the Channel Islands. They are not EU carriers and have different operating licences than a UK based operator. The Channel Islands are crown colony not mainland. City wings got away with it as they where only the ticket agent for an EU registered AOC.
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Obviously this would be sold via TOM and not Norwegian direct ?
Flown with Norwegian and have to say they were pretty good and the B737-800 very new and modern.
I wonder would they ever look at operating it as one of their schedules as pretty big on the Canary Islands
Flown with Norwegian and have to say they were pretty good and the B737-800 very new and modern.
I wonder would they ever look at operating it as one of their schedules as pretty big on the Canary Islands
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Obviously this would be sold via TOM and not Norwegian direct ?
Flown with Norwegian and have to say they were pretty good and the B737-800 very new and modern.
I wonder would they ever look at operating it as one of their schedules as pretty big on the Canary Islands
Flown with Norwegian and have to say they were pretty good and the B737-800 very new and modern.
I wonder would they ever look at operating it as one of their schedules as pretty big on the Canary Islands
Witg regard to expansion at CWL, i believe that focussing on growth from an already established carrier is the way forward, we've seen how long it's taken Vueling to get to the stage they are at, and I don't think CWL would like to go through that process again. If VY keep growing continually at CWL, then they may well be enticed to open a base at the airport in coming years, which would then open the door to new routes in which you mention. That's my best bet !
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Vueling have gradually increased their CWL presence over the last 4 years, it be even better if they opened a new route or 2 for 2016.
They have a base at FCO, that must be on the "hit list" for CWL.
Also MJV had excellent loads with BMI baby......
BCN be good as a year round destination too, surely at least twice a week.
As for Norwegian, that would be a real point scorer for CWL in their own right as they would have no issue challenging EZY and FR at BRS.
Also Volotea would be a good airline to secure.......
Exciting times ahead, plus hopefully something else from Ryanair too
They have a base at FCO, that must be on the "hit list" for CWL.
Also MJV had excellent loads with BMI baby......
BCN be good as a year round destination too, surely at least twice a week.
As for Norwegian, that would be a real point scorer for CWL in their own right as they would have no issue challenging EZY and FR at BRS.
Also Volotea would be a good airline to secure.......
Exciting times ahead, plus hopefully something else from Ryanair too
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Vueling have gradually increased their CWL presence over the last 4 years, it be even better if they opened a new route or 2 for 2016.
They have a base at FCO, that must be on the "hit list" for CWL.
Also MJV had excellent loads with BMI baby......
BCN be good as a year round destination too, surely at least twice a week.
As for Norwegian, that would be a real point scorer for CWL in their own right as they would have no issue challenging EZY and FR at BRS.
Also Volotea would be a good airline to secure.......
Exciting times ahead, plus hopefully something else from Ryanair too
They have a base at FCO, that must be on the "hit list" for CWL.
Also MJV had excellent loads with BMI baby......
BCN be good as a year round destination too, surely at least twice a week.
As for Norwegian, that would be a real point scorer for CWL in their own right as they would have no issue challenging EZY and FR at BRS.
Also Volotea would be a good airline to secure.......
Exciting times ahead, plus hopefully something else from Ryanair too
Details on the route shop.
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VY's PMI service for next March has gone on-sale, although it only currently appears to be bookable for Easter ! I'm sure this will be expanded sometime soon.
I wonder what BE have in store for CWL operations when they release their Summer 2016 schedule ? If the current routes are making money on the E195's, then they may well bring in another one of the retired from service E195's to further enhance frequencies, for example a mid-afternoon-late afternoon EDI service for example.
For prospects for 2016, things are certainly looking good with VY's further expansion, an extra couple of frequencies from TOM using other carriers, including D8, and of course any expansion that BE bring with them. I also remain surprised that FR haven't knocked the door for further routes, with what appears to be a successful route with their TFS, there remain to be a number of FR sort of routes that could be taken up at the airport.
Also, Aer Lingus Regional seem to have increased DUB to 13x per week, from what was (I believe) 12x per week this Summer despite BE also taking on this route. Surely good news !
I wonder what BE have in store for CWL operations when they release their Summer 2016 schedule ? If the current routes are making money on the E195's, then they may well bring in another one of the retired from service E195's to further enhance frequencies, for example a mid-afternoon-late afternoon EDI service for example.
For prospects for 2016, things are certainly looking good with VY's further expansion, an extra couple of frequencies from TOM using other carriers, including D8, and of course any expansion that BE bring with them. I also remain surprised that FR haven't knocked the door for further routes, with what appears to be a successful route with their TFS, there remain to be a number of FR sort of routes that could be taken up at the airport.
Also, Aer Lingus Regional seem to have increased DUB to 13x per week, from what was (I believe) 12x per week this Summer despite BE also taking on this route. Surely good news !
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Yes I'm hoping that Flybe add something new for 2016.....some French routes would be great like BOD or EGC.
The E195's have the range for some more sunshine routes too so hopeful Flybe will see the potential.
Ryanair I'm surprised have not added anything new, the TFS has excellent load factors and thought they would have added a year round link to LPA which is only served by TOM.....
Would love to see a link to PRG & MJV as these were very popular with BMI baby.
Let's hope for some more good news
The E195's have the range for some more sunshine routes too so hopeful Flybe will see the potential.
Ryanair I'm surprised have not added anything new, the TFS has excellent load factors and thought they would have added a year round link to LPA which is only served by TOM.....
Would love to see a link to PRG & MJV as these were very popular with BMI baby.
Let's hope for some more good news
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Winter 16/17 Dubai cruise
When is Thomson's going to announce details of the Dubai cruise in Winter 16/17?
According to the press release further information is going to be available in November but no specific date. Any ideas?
DUBAI NAMED AS NEW HOME PORT FOR THOMSON CELEBRATION CRUISE SHIP - TUITravel Media Centre - Thomson
Thanks.
According to the press release further information is going to be available in November but no specific date. Any ideas?
DUBAI NAMED AS NEW HOME PORT FOR THOMSON CELEBRATION CRUISE SHIP - TUITravel Media Centre - Thomson
Thanks.
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LinksAir schedules from Cardiff to Valley - another change of operator?
North Flying's Metro 23 OY-NPE departed last night and has not been replaced by another from their fleet.
Today's morning Cardiff to Valley flight is being operated by a DragonFly King Air.
Temporary change or another issue?
North Flying's Metro 23 OY-NPE departed last night and has not been replaced by another from their fleet.
Today's morning Cardiff to Valley flight is being operated by a DragonFly King Air.
Temporary change or another issue?
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Things have now gone further to hell with LinksAir, it seems. Looking at the South Wales Aviation Group page, it seems that 2x B200s were needed to operated the evening VLY-CWL flight as (I am assuming) there were more than the number of passengers a B200 can carry booked on it. Links must be losing massive amounts of money with this now. The aircraft in question were G-FLYW and G-BVMA.