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Old 19th Jan 2016, 23:33
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If possible I would like to get an educated answer to this.

LAS is a great route for VS. Daily flight is always busy. BA are now flying to LAS from LGW and LHR. So there must be some form of demand there.

If not an american carrier but why has EI not jumped on this route yet, even 3 a week.
Heavily leisure traffic and price sensitive, EI would find it difficult to make to work however now with feed it would be more viable. US carriers and BA/VS have good deals with agents to route traffic via a certain point and it could be difficult for EI to undercut those and remain viable with a direct service.

It's similar to Florida, thousands fly via MAN/LGW and the US yet EI have a low frequency direct service. If it was worth their while to claw back those passengers they would but guess more money to be make elsewhere.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 00:27
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
If it was worth their while to claw back those passengers they would but guess more money to be make elsewhere.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. They would probably make more money putting a 3rd flight a day into BOS or ORD or a 4th into Kennedy.

BA regularly cancel one of their JFK flights ex LHR to fit in something else that's been delayed. Now that people from the UK regions can earn and spend Avios with EI funnelling them through DUB from the UK regions to free up a couple of slots at LHR might really appeal to them.

MAN and GLA do have LAS links with VS and TC but as has been stated their populations are far higher. A big chunk of EI pax are US tourists visiting the old sod, not as a large of an Irish American presence in Nevada I should think.

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Old 20th Jan 2016, 12:32
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Were flying to YYZ via DUB from BHX in October, pricing by Aer Lingus seems quite aggressive, saved my family ££££££ without the need for a trip to London
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 13:33
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Originally Posted by The Mixmaster
With the feed coming from the UK regions and the wider European area there is surely a viable market to make this route work on at least three times a week basis a la Orlando. There are very large trade conferences there every week so LAS is not as purely leisure dominated as you would initially think. Strikes me as EI being overly cautious, hopefully IAG will push it through as part of their planned accelerated expansion to the US ex DUB.
Ask yourself a question.

If they can make a higher amount out of another route, why would they start LAS?
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 14:21
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Before this year everything bar YYZ was resuming a pre recession route (SFO, IAD) or expanding pre existing routes. LAX and EWR are resumptions of pre recession routes. Only BDL is new this year. BWI is the only former A330 destination that hasn't resumed and that was before they moved to IAD last time.
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No I can't, but Aer Lingus do and there is a reason that they haven't started the route! Your not going to convince them of starting it either, they know what they're doing.

Also, there's very little connectivity from LAS, unlike most of the traditional routes. SFO, LAX, JFK, BOS, ORD, EWR.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 15:30
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I find it hard to get excited when Aer Lingus launch on routes served by other carriers. BDL is the only new route this year when push comes to shove, and that's not until September...
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 16:47
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I have to agree with you on that one. I don't think a "new" route is new if an existing customer is operating.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 22:05
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Originally Posted by cheesebag
Were flying to YYZ via DUB from BHX in October, pricing by Aer Lingus seems quite aggressive, saved my family ££££££ without the need for a trip to London
Check westjet from London - peanuts, extremely cheap! Saving that can't be ignored - a hop on Shamrock or Ryanair into Gatwick, switch at Gatwick. Sorted.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 22:07
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That necessitates either an flight to London without a guaranteed connection, or a drive to London. The OP was trying to AVOID London .
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With the feed coming from the UK regions and the wider European area there is surely a viable market to make this route work on at least three times a week basis a la Orlando. There are very large trade conferences there every week so LAS is not as purely leisure dominated as you would initially think. Strikes me as EI being overly cautious, hopefully IAG will push it through as part of their planned accelerated expansion to the US ex DUB.
As I said above I think such a service would be more commercially viable today that before however at the minute there is far more lucrative opportunities for EI in the US before LAS would be considered.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 23:43
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I'd be inclined to agree with Jamie. Furthermore, routes to the East Coast or generally the East side of the US are closer and hence less hungry in terms of ac tied up. A West coast service can see an A330 gone for 24 hours, while a NYC or even Toronto is a lot shorter allowing for potentially greater utilisation of said fleet and if more passengers can be carried on said services it is not just revenue from tickets, the ancillary revenues are greater.
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Old 22nd Jan 2016, 11:15
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Sources say announcement coming very soon....watch the space.
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Old 22nd Jan 2016, 11:17
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In regards to what?
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Old 22nd Jan 2016, 23:47
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Sources say announcement coming very soon....watch the space.
In regards to what?
I'm guessing he may mean in regards to the 2 long haul route announcements rumored a few weeks ago.
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Old 23rd Jan 2016, 00:01
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I'm guessing he may mean in regards to the 2 long haul route announcements rumored a few weeks ago.
Not saying anything but I said here a long time before United announced Chicago last year it was going to happen.

Anyway was 2017 a time for those rumours you refer to?
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Old 23rd Jan 2016, 12:03
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daa to remove security checks for transit passengers who comply with requirements at departure points. EU and US passengers will not longer be required, once new facility is completed.

Does not chnage TSA checks when flying to US.
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Old 23rd Jan 2016, 16:06
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Shame they can't do something about having to clear security twice a few minutes apart when flying to the US from Dublin.
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Old 26th Jan 2016, 16:36
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Was it wind that caused diversions earlier on today around lunch time? Just saw an LH from FRA that came virtually all the way before circling for a while and heading back to FRA. Just curious.
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Old 26th Jan 2016, 16:49
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Was gusting over 50kts from 220 degrees! Could you not feel it?

Over 12 diversions, most to SNN.
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