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A 767 is coming not confirmed operator/route yet.
In the last hour RY10/28 has been closed because of damage, current weather could make a quick fix difficult to hold. Update expected soon but unconfirmed reports of a hole.
In the last hour RY10/28 has been closed because of damage, current weather could make a quick fix difficult to hold. Update expected soon but unconfirmed reports of a hole.
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Transavia France will increase Paris ORY form 1 to 2 daily next summer, media suggest from September but not confirmed if it will be earlier. Great to see it doing well and FR wanted to fly twice daily but couldn't get slots recently.
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In the last hour RY10/28 has been closed because of damage, current weather could make a quick fix difficult to hold. Update expected soon but unconfirmed reports of a hole.
What happened with the pot hole mentioned above btw?
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A departing aircraft reported a bit of debris on the runway and on inspection it was found that a bit of the runway have came up. Operations were then switched to RWY34 until 9pm that night while temporary repairs were made. Since last night RWY10/28 will be closed from 11pm-4am to facilite more permanent works on the runway.
RWY10/28 has never been resurfaced in my recollection, I think one is planned for around 2022 when the 2nd runway at Dublin will arrive. After RWY10/28 R opens RWY10/28 L will be closed for a full resurface.
RWY10/28 has never been resurfaced in my recollection, I think one is planned for around 2022 when the 2nd runway at Dublin will arrive. After RWY10/28 R opens RWY10/28 L will be closed for a full resurface.
Have a feeling a June start is likely as my mate in Dublin going to the Euro's in France and he already saying 50,000 expected to travel from Ireland.
It was closed during the night for a large part of last winter to allow repairs/resurfacing. It's in rag order. Apparently it wasn't built properly in the first place, something to do with the foundations not being deep enough. That's one of the stories DUB ATC tell us anyway
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The runway overlay was completed in 2010/11 and has a lifespan of 6 to 8 years. So a 'hole' (define) appeared 19 days ahead of schedule so not exactly unexpected. Any one care to guess when the next one is due?
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It's in rag order. Apparently it wasn't built properly in the first place, something to do with the foundations not being deep enough
Is it true they're going to allow an A380 service next year to rough it up even further?
A double deck airbridge is going in and the apron is being strengthened on the west side of T2 isn't it? Certainly points to imminent 380 ops. That'll be fun.
They'll hit the 25m pax figure needed to go ahead with the parallel runway this month. The original planning permission is still valid for another 2 years, IIRC that was for 3,110 meters? The latest plans I've seen are for 3,600 meters, I think there's a big debate going on ATM as to whether to bother with the longer plan as they would have to go through the whole planning application again and deal with all those narky residents and their legal objections. Also I seem to recall one of the stipulations in the original granting of permission was that the new runway couldn't be used before 8am? IE peak period 6-8 it would be closed. That really will need to change
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Transavia France will increase Paris ORY form 1 to 2 daily next summer, media suggest from September but not confirmed if it will be earlier. Great to see it doing well and FR wanted to fly twice daily but couldn't get slots recently.
Have a feeling a June start is likely as my mate in Dublin going to the Euro's in France and he already saying 50,000 expected to travel from Ireland.
MON-FRI
DUB departures at 07.55 and 19.55
ORY departures at 06.20 and 18.20
SAT
DUB departure at 07.55
ORY departure at 06.20
SUN
DUB departure at 19.55
ORY departure at 18.20
It's also narrow and too close to the bravo taxiways, so full 180 degree rapid exit taxiways couldn't be built.
A double deck airbridge is going in and the apron is being strengthened on the west side of T2 isn't it? Certainly points to imminent 380 ops. That'll be fun.
They'll hit the 25m pax figure needed to go ahead with the parallel runway this month. The original planning permission is still valid for another 2 years, IIRC that was for 3,110 meters? The latest plans I've seen are for 3,600 meters, I think there's a big debate going on ATM as to whether to bother with the longer plan as they would have to go through the whole planning application again and deal with all those narky residents and their legal objections. Also I seem to recall one of the stipulations in the original granting of permission was that the new runway couldn't be used before 8am? IE peak period 6-8 it would be closed. That really will need to change
A double deck airbridge is going in and the apron is being strengthened on the west side of T2 isn't it? Certainly points to imminent 380 ops. That'll be fun.
They'll hit the 25m pax figure needed to go ahead with the parallel runway this month. The original planning permission is still valid for another 2 years, IIRC that was for 3,110 meters? The latest plans I've seen are for 3,600 meters, I think there's a big debate going on ATM as to whether to bother with the longer plan as they would have to go through the whole planning application again and deal with all those narky residents and their legal objections. Also I seem to recall one of the stipulations in the original granting of permission was that the new runway couldn't be used before 8am? IE peak period 6-8 it would be closed. That really will need to change
It was 23.00-07.00 closure and a capped number of arrivals between those hours on existing runway which may at this stage be exceeded. I can't see anything other than a new application at some stage next year.
The runway overlay was completed in 2010/11 and has a lifespan of 6 to 8 years. So a 'hole' (define) appeared 19 days ahead of schedule so not exactly unexpected. Any one care to guess when the next one is due?
During 2016/2017 a full structural bituminous overlay, nominally 200 mm thick with a new TPFC wearing surface. They predicted increased maintenance costs in 2015/2016 as TPFC comes to life end. When this work is done it's expected to last 15 years at a cost of 22 million.
Is it true they're going to allow an A380 service next year to rough it up even further?
Also I seem to recall one of the stipulations in the original granting of permission was that the new runway couldn't be used before 8am? IE peak period 6-8 it would be closed. That really will need to change
"3. On completion of construction of the runway hereby permitted, the runways at the airport shall be operated in accordance with the mode of operation – Option 7b – as detailed in the Environmental Impact Statement Addendum, Section 16 as received by the planning authority on the 9th day of August, 2005 and shall provide that -
(a) the parallel runways (10R-28L and 10L-28R) shall be used in preference to the cross runway, 16-34,
(b) when winds are westerly, Runway 28L shall be preferred for arriving aircraft. Either Runway 28L or 28R shall be used for departing aircraft as determined by air traffic control,
(c) when winds are easterly, either Runway 10L or 10R as determined by air traffic control shall be preferred for arriving aircraft. Runway 10R shall be preferred for departing aircraft, and
(d) Runway 10L-28R shall not be used for take-off or landing between 2300 hours and 0700 hours,
except in cases of safety, maintenance considerations, exceptional air traffic conditions, adverse weather, technical faults in air traffic control systems or declared emergencies at other airports.
Reason: In the interest of clarity and to ensure the operation of the runways in accordance with the mitigation measures set out in the Environmental Impact Statement in the interest of the protection of the amenities of the surrounding area."
Depending on your interpretation of "preferred" and the amount of flexibility it provides, that could seem to suggest that the existing runway and infrastructure would need upgrading in order to deliver the same operational capability during periods of easterly winds.
Additionally, Condition 5 restricts overall airfield use;
"5. On completion of construction of the runway hereby permitted, the average number of night time aircraft movements at the airport shall not exceed 65/night (between 2300 hours and 0700 hours) when measured over the 92 day modelling period as set out in the reply to the further information request received by An Bord Pleanála on the 5th day of March, 2007.
Reason: To control the frequency of night flights at the airport so as to protect residential amenity having regard to the information submitted concerning future night time use of the existing parallel runway."
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daa to submit planning applications for:
1000sq extension to 100 gates, think it's around 4 aircraft stands, 2 gates to allow foot access for all aircraft.
Segregation of 200 gates.
Moving of support facilities at mezzanine level of Terminal 2 to facilitate the provision of two exit points for passengers being bussed to and from aircraft.
A new transfer facility is planned in the departures level of Terminal 2 aimed at reducing queuing and congestion.
Planning Updates: Dublin Airport to ease passenger movement | Irish Examiner
1000sq extension to 100 gates, think it's around 4 aircraft stands, 2 gates to allow foot access for all aircraft.
Segregation of 200 gates.
Moving of support facilities at mezzanine level of Terminal 2 to facilitate the provision of two exit points for passengers being bussed to and from aircraft.
A new transfer facility is planned in the departures level of Terminal 2 aimed at reducing queuing and congestion.
Planning Updates: Dublin Airport to ease passenger movement | Irish Examiner
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Vueling is showing direct DUB-ORY on website, no direct flights bookable yet however could just be for the Euro's.
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A Sunday Business Post Journalist has tweeted
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Guess more will be revealed tomorrow. You never know somebody may of read JAS post!!!
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Dublin Airport growth potential threatened as new runway plans hit by serious planning Catch 22.
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Latest News > One Million Passengers Use Dublin Airport As A Hub
Transfer traffic passes 1 million passengers and fitting it was EI's new LPL route as well!
Transfer traffic passes 1 million passengers and fitting it was EI's new LPL route as well!
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Do Germwnings not use fuel at DUB or are their ops team superb in planning. Held for just short of 90 minutes this afternoon and could of held for 40-45 minutes longer if needed.
All others only held for a few rounds before having to divert.....
All others only held for a few rounds before having to divert.....
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Puts EI / FR to shame? Not exactly, it is not very professional to continue holding if you will not get into your destination! Better to go to an alternate and see what the next best options are for the passengers and company whilst safely on the ground
Given the weather the last few days they may well have brought plenty of holding fuel in preparation. Also after what happened last year I'd imagine they're very eager to provide as good a service as possible by ensuring pax get to their destination to regain some consumer confidence.
It's also possible they hedged fuel at the wrong time and are eager to get through it as quickly as possible by tankering with prices still falling
It's also possible they hedged fuel at the wrong time and are eager to get through it as quickly as possible by tankering with prices still falling
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Germanwings at one point made a detour Up North towards Belfast but turned-around and went back into the Dublin hold.
What was interesting yesterday was the number of flights that chose not to divert into Belfast, despite there being confirmed space. One Turkish 737 went right overhead en route to Glasgow, another BA pilot stated that the company had told them not to use Belfast.
In the end only two went into Belfast, Iberia and Scandinavian.
What was interesting yesterday was the number of flights that chose not to divert into Belfast, despite there being confirmed space. One Turkish 737 went right overhead en route to Glasgow, another BA pilot stated that the company had told them not to use Belfast.
In the end only two went into Belfast, Iberia and Scandinavian.