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Old 17th Jul 2011, 08:06
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What about the £2 EU levy, the £6 check in fee, credit card charges, luggage charges etc? Surely they too are not economical with a £9 fee? MOL finds it acceptable to introduce charges for anything he can think of and then increase them but he doesn't find it acceptable for the Government to increase the APD. I'm not saying I agree with the APD but I think MOL is being rather hypocritical here.

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Old 17th Jul 2011, 12:33
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There is a difference between FR "fees" - which are really components of the fare and government applied levies/fees. FR can do what they like with their own "fees" but government mandated ADP, etc must be paid.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 12:47
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I really don't see that much difference between Ryanair's fees and Government taxes. Many of Ryanair's "fees" are actually compulsory, like the check in fee, the £2 EU levy. Yes, there are others that aren't compulsory but for many people are not avoidable like the luggage fee or credit/ debit card fee. Having said that, I usually find that Ryanair is cheaper than Easyjet even with all the "fees". But MOL is being hypocritical. If passengers are willing to pay then why shouldn't Ryanair fly where the passengers want to go?
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 17:17
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EU LEVY?

What is this EU Levy. Where did you get that from - it is a fuel surcharge in any other name. No other airline has an EU Levy.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 17:58
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EU LEVY?

A charge in case of EU Legislation payments for compensation due to cancellation or delays to flights.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 18:26
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have just had a look at the ryanair web site,can someone tell me what an oxygen reservation is{if you book on line its n/a,but if you book it at the airpot it costs £100.{do i have to pay for oxygen in case of an emergency}only joking
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have just had a look at the ryanair web site,can someone tell me what an oxygen reservation is{if you book on line its n/a,but if you book it at the airpot it costs £100.{do i have to pay for oxygen in case of an emergency}only joking
Its for People who need there own independent supply of Oxegen.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 18:45
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Some pax have breathing problems and require the use of 100% oxygen, at sea level oxgyen is about 21%. And is even less at cabin pressure. Most pax will have thier own portable oxgyen generator.

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EU LEVY?

Just another Ryanair rip-off then TSR2.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 13:57
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Any news on the Gerona base this winter , are Ryanair planning to operate any schedules or is the work being slowly moved to Barcelona ?

Still no flights on sale at the moment to any UK base from end of Oct
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 13:59
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Flights will operate from STN, BHX and MAN to Girona. For other routes look back a page or two.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 15:58
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Just another Ryanair rip-off then TSR2.
No it is not. For some reason the EU think airlines have to take responsibility for flights which do not operate due to circumstances entirely out of their control. This often costs them many times the price of the original flight ticket in compensation. A totally unfair rule. To counteract this FR make a €2 per flight charge which creates a fund to pay for these compensation claims. It is the regulators fault not FR's. I am sure many other airlines are effectively doing the same thing by building this into their prices - any "risk management" department would recommend this as a matter of course. The only difference is that FR itemise it separately thus making it clear that PAX are being charged for this. One thing FR's charges do not lack is tranparency.

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Old 18th Jul 2011, 16:26
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True, but one thing the average passenger really doesn't care about is transparency when it comes to *unavoidable* charges.

By all means give me a breakdown for the avoidable charges, but I'd much rather see a single figure that I know is the total cost for the basic service.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 17:07
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Originally Posted by blueplatinum
No it is not. For some reason the EU think airlines have to take responsibility for flights which do not operate due to circumstances entirely out of their control. This often costs them many times the price of the original flight ticket in compensation. A totally unfair rule. To counteract this FR make a €2 per flight charge which creates a fund to pay for these compensation claims. It is the regulators fault not FR's. I am sure many other airlines are effectively doing the same thing by building this into their prices - any "risk management" department would recommend this as a matter of course. The only difference is that FR itemise it separately thus making it clear that PAX are being charged for this. One thing FR's charges do not lack is tranparency.

I note that Ryanair claim that the volcano catastrophe last year cost them €50m (Ryanair press release here).

At 70 million passengers in a full year they will now make enough on "EU261" charges to cover the costs of disruption of the scale of 2.8 catastrophic airspace closures caused by Icelandic volcanoes per year.

Does that seem "transparent" or proportional to you? Or could it be that - perhaps? - there's a teensy-weensy little bit of profit-taking going on here?

Incidentally I completely agree that other airlines also have to cover the cost of these additional EU-imposed charges. They don't itemise them separately and then inflate the bill. They *do* itemise fuel surcharges separately and inflate that bill - I'm not suggesting that they are at all virtuous. But Ryanair is doing with the EU261 charge exactly what it loudly decries other carriers for doing with their fuel surcharges.
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Old 19th Jul 2011, 06:33
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FR in Greece

According to the Greek press, Ryanair's flights to "Macedonia" Airport near Thessaloniki in Northern Greece are running very well. Especially successful proved to be the Scandinavian routes. More precisely, the load factor on the route to Skavsta is close to 100%, while between RYG and SKG it approaches 96%.

Still no plans to continue in the winter, though. I'd think there is much more to see in Northern Greece than just the beaches...
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Old 20th Jul 2011, 12:48
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By all means give me a breakdown for the avoidable charges, but I'd much rather see a single figure that I know is the total cost for the basic service.
I agree with this.

Due to my current circumstances I have the luxury of being able to travel when it is cheapest.

FR's web site is very poor at presenting all the available flights with their total (mandatory) charge shown. For a start you can only see one week at a time (many sites give two full calendar months) and secondly only the base price, without online check-in, EU261 levy and Taxes/fees, is shown before you drill down.

The UK version of the site is even worse as it doesn't show any prices at all or give an indication of which are flying days.

For best usability, the price shown should be the full price (including only mandatory charges) with the breakdown being shown when you drill down. The site should also provide at least a full calendar month grid not just a single week.
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Old 20th Jul 2011, 16:55
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Jamie-great news from GRO-I got caught up in the baggage strike & I was panicking for the future as BHX/GRO is my regular route and the usual 3 times a week suits me fine.
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Old 20th Jul 2011, 17:04
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Those routes are planned to operate but it dosn't mean they will.
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Old 20th Jul 2011, 19:07
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I see PIK is not on the list of routes proposed to be operated from GRO - Is it being dropped?
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Old 21st Jul 2011, 14:24
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Ryanair fees

I booked a flight for the next week from Santiago de Compostela to Lanzarote (spanish domestic route). According to Ryanair fees table, a 15kg bag during peak periods in a domestic flight to Canary Islands is charged 20€ per sector.
However, when I try to book it online the value shown is 25€... What should I do?
Help, please...
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