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The majors are often cheaper
Dont make me laugh "the majors" you dont get more major than Ryanair !
How many new routes do your so called majors announce every few months ?
How fast have your so called majors grown in the last ten years ?
How many new A/C orders have your so called majors bought in the last few years ?
How many new bases has your so called majors opened in the last few years ?
the list could go on and on.
And while you are talking about how the lowest fare my not be with Ryanair I think you will find that your so called majors have had to stop charging silly money for a 2 hr flight to Europe and thats all down to Ryanair ... your welcome
How many new routes do your so called majors announce every few months ?
How fast have your so called majors grown in the last ten years ?
How many new A/C orders have your so called majors bought in the last few years ?
How many new bases has your so called majors opened in the last few years ?
the list could go on and on.
And while you are talking about how the lowest fare my not be with Ryanair I think you will find that your so called majors have had to stop charging silly money for a 2 hr flight to Europe and thats all down to Ryanair ... your welcome
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Simple fact - were it not for exhorbitant card fees Ryanair would've made zero profit last year. In effect they made £400 Million from reselling 50 pence credit card charges for £5, the actual running of aircraft was of secondary concern.
Simple fact - were it not for exhorbitant card fees Ryanair would've made zero profit last year. In effect they made £400 Million from reselling 50 pence credit card charges for £5, the actual running of aircraft was of secondary concern.
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OK, so the PR people put a nice spin on it on a technicality. Are you telling me that 60% of bookings are made with a pre paid mastercard (am I allowed to roll around the floor with laughter at this point) or are the PR people ignoring DEBIT card charges to put a positive spin on things?
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Simple fact ...
Ryanair, with added optional charges are still cheaper than other Airlines MAJOR or not I have taken 100's of flights and never found a cheaper price than the price I payed with Ryanair (FACT).
Also what other Airline offers there passengers cheap flights and removes the tax from the final price ond dont say this is only on afew flights or seats because I have never payed tax on any of my Ryanair flights (FACT).
Also what other Airline offers there passengers cheap flights and removes the tax from the final price ond dont say this is only on afew flights or seats because I have never payed tax on any of my Ryanair flights (FACT).
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Ryanair is a business and will, like any other business, seek to generate sufficient revenue to exceed costs. Credit cards fees are simply revenue. If you don't want to pay the £5 fee, get a prepaid Mastercard. It's not difficult, some are available for free and I refill mine instantly via the issuers website. I'm quite happy that others can't be bothered. Them paying the card fees means I pay lower airfares. This week I flew to Bremen and back for £3 each way. I'm not complaining.
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Some of you have no real undertanding of a business, if ryanair drop the card fee, the base price will increase, simples. And ryanair will still be much cheaper than the likes of easyJet, BA, LH, IB and the rest . . . .
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OK, so the PR people put a nice spin on it on a technicality. Are you telling me that 60% of bookings are made with a pre paid mastercard (am I allowed to roll around the floor with laughter at this point) or are the PR people ignoring DEBIT card charges to put a positive spin on things?
You are aware that providing false information in annual accounts gets a company hammered by a stock exchange.
The figures were given for time when Electron was in use and as Irish customers had difficultly accessing these then figures will have gone up since.
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So your statement that "60 % of passengers don't pay cc fees" was inaccurate then, or rather at best it was out of date, so back to the point I was making, Ryanair made £400 Million last year from reselling CC charges without which their profitability as a business would have been zero. Electron hasn't been FOC for 12 months or so.
Note, before I am jumped on by yet another O'Leary worshipper, at no point have I actually criticised them for this, they make their money through somewhat sharp business practice that penalises the less savvy traveller. I don't have a huge problem with that as it allows those who do have some knowledge to access cheaper fares.
That said I really don't see why they can't simply absorb the CC fee and online check in fee into their base price, they'd still be the cheapest (in most cases) and customers wouldn't constantly feel like their being cheated.
Note, before I am jumped on by yet another O'Leary worshipper, at no point have I actually criticised them for this, they make their money through somewhat sharp business practice that penalises the less savvy traveller. I don't have a huge problem with that as it allows those who do have some knowledge to access cheaper fares.
That said I really don't see why they can't simply absorb the CC fee and online check in fee into their base price, they'd still be the cheapest (in most cases) and customers wouldn't constantly feel like their being cheated.
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Are you telling me that 60% of bookings are made with a pre paid mastercard
The figures were given for time when Electron was in use
the figures have gone up since
So your statement that "60 % of passengers don't pay cc fees" was inaccurate then, or rather at best it was out of date, so back to the point I was making, Ryanair made £400 Million last year from reselling CC charges without which their profitability as a business would have been zero. Electron hasn't been FOC for 12 months or so.
Note, before I am jumped on by yet another O'Leary worshipper, at no point have I actually criticised them for this, they make their money through somewhat sharp business practice that penalises the less savvy traveller. I don't have a huge problem with that as it allows those who do have some knowledge to access cheaper fares.
That said I really don't see why they can't simply absorb the CC fee and online check in fee into their base price, they'd still be the cheapest (in most cases) and customers wouldn't constantly feel like their being cheated.
Note, before I am jumped on by yet another O'Leary worshipper, at no point have I actually criticised them for this, they make their money through somewhat sharp business practice that penalises the less savvy traveller. I don't have a huge problem with that as it allows those who do have some knowledge to access cheaper fares.
That said I really don't see why they can't simply absorb the CC fee and online check in fee into their base price, they'd still be the cheapest (in most cases) and customers wouldn't constantly feel like their being cheated.
Electron was not available in Ireland and with in excess of 7 million passengers carried from Ireland then clearly many people were paying the charges with no option to avoid.
Now with prepaid mastercard being more widely available the 30% figure of people avoiding paying is likely to have risen. (The 60% number is incorrect
it should read 30% in 2009)
As for making £400 Million well that would mean they had 80 million passengers which was not the case, nobody had availed of avoid the charges, again not the case so aside from another anti FR whinge what exactly is your point ?
If you dislike them you have the option of using someone else.
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If you dislike them you have the option of using someone else.
- just a pity that nobody listens.
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Some do like them, but are able to understand why FR tend to be so repellent for others. Suggesting the need to change a few things is like the expertise given for free 
- just a pity that nobody listens.
- just a pity that nobody listens.
The FR fanboys are hilarious.
And just for redress, Electron is far more common in the UK than pre paid mastercard and FR carry far more from the UK than EIRE.
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racedo I have to hand it to you, your unwavering defence all things Ryanair is impressive, whether good or bad! If MOL is tuned in all I can say is whatever you pay this guy (Or gal not sure what he is!)it's not enough!!
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racedo I have to hand it to you, your unwavering defence all things Ryanair is impressive, whether good or bad! If MOL is tuned in all I can say is whatever you pay this guy (Or gal not sure what he is!)it's not enough!!
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And just for redress, Electron is far more common in the UK than pre paid mastercard and FR carry far more from the UK than EIRE.
As for prepaid Mastercard
Compare prepaid cards | Apply for a prepaid card ? moneysupermarket.com
This kinda gives an idea as to availability.
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Tax
I agree with you totally I always fly with Ryanair where I can fly with with no Tax added, have flown 100s of Ryanair flights as well and to destinations the majors dont fly which I find very interesting and it has taken me to destinations I would never had thought going to if it were not for Ryanair!
Although on major trunk routes such as Barcelona, Venice, etc I do prefer to fly BA.
Although on major trunk routes such as Barcelona, Venice, etc I do prefer to fly BA.
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Now it looks like: "Bye, bye Girona". Despedida!
So when the cancellations are due to begin? 
Ryanair today confirmed the cancellation of its five-year extension agreement at Barcelona Girona Airport, which was originally announced in December 2010, saying the new Catalan government has refused to honour its agreement with the airline
"In December 2010 Ryanair and the Government of Catalonia reached agreement on a five year extension of its base operation at Girona Airport under which Ryanair agreed to base 11 aircraft at Girona, operate 64 routes and deliver 4m passengers p.a. which would sustain up to 4,000 jobs in and around Girona Airport," Ryanair said.
"However, the new government has refused to honour the agreement despite being consulted on it by the outgoing government."
Ryanair is to reduce its operations from the airport by five aircraft, close 18 (of 64) routes and reduce frequencies on 17 other routes, the airline said.
The move will result in the loss of over 100 weekly flights, which will see Ryanair’s Girona traffic fall from 4m to 2.3m per annum, which it said will cause the loss of up to 1,700 local jobs
"Ryanair will now switch these five aircraft to lower cost airports elsewhere in Europe," the airline said.
"It is a remarkable achievement by the new government to have caused such job and tourism losses within weeks of taking office," said spokesman Michael Cawley.
"However, while this is a significant loss for Girona, Ryanair will continue to grow at other lower cost airports in Spain and elsewhere in Europe.”
"In December 2010 Ryanair and the Government of Catalonia reached agreement on a five year extension of its base operation at Girona Airport under which Ryanair agreed to base 11 aircraft at Girona, operate 64 routes and deliver 4m passengers p.a. which would sustain up to 4,000 jobs in and around Girona Airport," Ryanair said.
"However, the new government has refused to honour the agreement despite being consulted on it by the outgoing government."
Ryanair is to reduce its operations from the airport by five aircraft, close 18 (of 64) routes and reduce frequencies on 17 other routes, the airline said.
The move will result in the loss of over 100 weekly flights, which will see Ryanair’s Girona traffic fall from 4m to 2.3m per annum, which it said will cause the loss of up to 1,700 local jobs
"Ryanair will now switch these five aircraft to lower cost airports elsewhere in Europe," the airline said.
"It is a remarkable achievement by the new government to have caused such job and tourism losses within weeks of taking office," said spokesman Michael Cawley.
"However, while this is a significant loss for Girona, Ryanair will continue to grow at other lower cost airports in Spain and elsewhere in Europe.”