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Old 19th Nov 2010, 11:18
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Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary brought a funeral hearse and coffin to Dublin Airport, to mark the opening of Terminal 2.
The low-cost airline says the unveiling of the new facility marks the ‘death of Irish tourism’.

The Taoiseach escaped from economic turbulance this morning to open the state of the art T2 – almost a reminder now of more prosperous times – but his arrival was somewhat hijacked by the Ryanair protest.

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Old 19th Nov 2010, 11:23
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Any further info about the base at ACE? Open date, new routes, etc?

When will it become official?
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How can opening a new modern airport terminal which enhances the experience of arriving and departing passangers as well as increasing the flow of transit pax through Dublin airport cause the death of the irish tourism industry ?

Answer: it does not.

Just more Bull from an increasingly pathetic looking publicity seeker.
Ignore him.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 12:44
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How can opening a new modern airport terminal which...increasing the flow of transit pax through Dublin airport cause the death of the irish tourism industry ?

Answer: it does not.
Transit passengers tend to do exactly that, transit. It may help the airlines but not so much the Irish tourism industry directly. Besides even assuming transit passengers would definitely help Irish tourism, building a 'new modern airport terminal' doesn't guarantee anything, there would be a lot of other countries doing it if it did!

which enhances the experience of arriving and departing passangers
You see I have no issue with any passenger who deems the terminal a passenger enhancing experience deciding to utilise it. What about the passenger that doesn't and wishes to use an airline who doesn't either - why does this passenger have to pay for it as well? I've been to many airports which seem to be able to cater for both.
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to be fair even supporters of T2 (eg. Tourism Ireland) on RTE News admitted the debt associated with it is an issue. DAA say it cost 600m, O'Leary says 1.2billion. I'd imagine its somewhere in the middle. Even so, at either end of the scale it is massive money and regardless of the benefits of T2 to Dublin someone has to pay for it. Without doubt that will be the passenger/tourist. Its expensive enough to holiday in this country without further burden of cost being put on tourists/passengers..so O'Leary has a point imo.
It could have been done a lot lot cheaper and with falling passenger numbers thats a big issue. (Please dont start telling me what passenger volumes will be in 10-15 years time.) If we've learnt anything at all in the last 2 years, it is that predictions are a load of horse manure and no-one can really tell what passenger numbers in Dublin will be. I'd also imagine there will be a knock on affect to services in Cork and Shannon with the DAA in control no doubt they will doing their best to channel as much traffic as possible through Dublin.

Will be interesting to see what happens Metro North, when the IMF are calling the shots.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 14:19
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So O'Leary has skeletons in his cupboard. He could use the coffin prop when he is closing down his own bases. Although using the poppy wreath as a prop at opening of T2 DUB was distasteful and far too irreverent to the symbolism of the poppy to my liking.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 18:32
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I just got back from ACE yesterday, major works going on on the ramp looks like they are making alot more room for something. there were loads of spotters and yes I did find myself sitting on the beach between the runway and the landing lights .
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 19:03
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Great news on ACE - finally! Wonder how long TFS, LPA and PMI are behind. It will be interesting to see how the Canary schedules work, would expect only 4 sectors out of the airport. Maybe a northern europe 2 sector and a 2 sector mainland spain or portugal, cant see the aircraft or crews being able to do much else with them being so far south!
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 06:52
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I can see it will be a very popular base for the crew. But I heard it maybe be a 9month a year base, not 100%sure about that myself. But great news for ACE, Ryanair and the crew who get based at ACE.

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 08:50
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irish bail-out

The Irish bail-out will mean far higher taxes for Ryanair.
I expect to see higher airport taxes, higher corporation tax and lots less flying.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 10:43
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ACE will become the 44th base.

Where did you get that info? I haven't seen anything officially anounced yet.

Me think is just a nice rumour.
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I aint saying since it was a select group who was told last week, i will pvt you
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The Irish bail-out will mean far higher taxes for Ryanair.
I expect to see higher airport taxes, higher corporation tax and lots less flying.
I expect you to be wrong.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 13:19
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seasonal bases

Great news on ACE - finally! Wonder how long TFS, LPA and PMI are behind. It will be interesting to see how the Canary schedules work, ...
would PMI not necessarily operate with a Canaries schedule...
As Palma is highly seasonal, some years ago switching between "summer base" and "winter base" was discussed (e.g. Palma and Salzburg). I know that finding crews who are willing to relocate twice a year would be challenging, but it could be worth trying!
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You see I have no issue with any passenger who deems the terminal a passenger enhancing experience deciding to utilise it. What about the passenger that doesn't and wishes to use an airline who doesn't either - why does this passenger have to pay for it as well? I've been to many airports which seem to be able to cater for both.
This is a valid perspective.

However, the fact is that the Dublin Airport Authority does not want to offer a product at different price levels. There is nothing obliging them to do so. There are plenty of cities in Europe with major airports that do not offer low-cost terminal facilities. I don't see Ryanair and their apologists regularly pontificating about AMS, CDG, or MUC.

Lets be realistic here. Ryanair and Mick don't give a flying about Irish tourism. They are here to make a profit. If DUB wasn't profitable for them then they'd pull all their aircraft out. The fact is that they're after a deal that isn't on offer, and whinging incessantly because they're not getting what they want. If the proposed airport at Tubber ever gets built I'm sure it'll be much cheaper than DUB. Maybe Ryanair can base their fourteen aircraft there, and good luck to them.
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 17:15
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I actually have far more of an idea than most, dear sir!
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 20:14
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I note that Ryanair have cancelled 52 flights on Wednesday 24th November due to the planned general strike in Portugal on that date.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 08:32
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Are Ryanair planning to operate from Bournemouth next summer ?

The reason i ask is still you can only book up to 23 March on all routes , not even Easter is on sale

All other UK airports have had there summer programme put on sale for some time now but again Bournemouth has been left out

Are Ryanair just leaving it to the last minute like this winter , then say forward bookings are poor so pulling out , leaving no time for any one else to put in place a flight programme
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 09:08
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fr will be operating from boh this year coming, the jobs have also been advertised within the company
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 10:33
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Which jobs have been advertised internally and where. As far as I know all the staff are in place and waiting for the base to reopen. The pilots certainly are.
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