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Never mind there plenty of room to park them up at Boeing Field East AKA EMA & BHX
wOW 1700 hundred jobs with maths like that are there enough people on the planet to work to support Ryanairs growth plans
wOW 1700 hundred jobs with maths like that are there enough people on the planet to work to support Ryanairs growth plans
I flew on the FR556 from DUB-MAN last Saturday evening and there were, at most, 50 pax on board.
Considering that this is one of their longest standing routes, it is probably becoming increasing difficult for them to find routes suitable for a 189 seat aircraft.
Considering that this is one of their longest standing routes, it is probably becoming increasing difficult for them to find routes suitable for a 189 seat aircraft.
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GRO will be reduced from the beginning of the summer season as far I understood.
No surprise really, with the rise of BCN this was bound to happen, they were just waiting for an excuse.
No surprise really, with the rise of BCN this was bound to happen, they were just waiting for an excuse.
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I'm not sure I agree with that. If they were really going to axe Girona, then why would they have announced a five year deal just eight weeks ago?
Ryanair Agrees 5 Year Extension of its Barcelona Girona Base
Not everyone flying to that part of the world is going to Barcelona. I''d have thought GRO could easily hold is own.
Ryanair Agrees 5 Year Extension of its Barcelona Girona Base
Not everyone flying to that part of the world is going to Barcelona. I''d have thought GRO could easily hold is own.
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The loading you report is a poor one but it is not typical of the DUB-MAN route as a whole. By Saturday evening, most people traveling for the weekend have already reached the location they wish to visit, but have yet to commence their return journey. Saturday teatime is also an unlikely choice for business travelers.
As it happens, that particular day also saw the Manchester United v Manchester City premiership 'derby' match with a lunchtime kick off. This is a very popular event amongst soccer fans from Ireland. I suspect (although I do not have the supporting data) that RYR and EIN will have enjoyed healthy demand with good yield on the morning eastbounds and evening westbound flights that day. In fact, I suspect that they would be well satisfied generally with traffic between Dublin and Manchester last weekend, as Rugby Union fans were in the mix too. As an aside, additional charter flights operated from Ireland / Scotland for the United v City match. Operators were CityJet, Aer Arann, Eastern Airways and Loganair.
Taking the big picture, as opposed to an off-peak snapshot, DUB-MAN has proved a particularly successful route for Ryanair.
Regards. SHED.
The loading you report is a poor one but it is not typical of the DUB-MAN route as a whole. By Saturday evening, most people traveling for the weekend have already reached the location they wish to visit, but have yet to commence their return journey. Saturday teatime is also an unlikely choice for business travelers.
As it happens, that particular day also saw the Manchester United v Manchester City premiership 'derby' match with a lunchtime kick off. This is a very popular event amongst soccer fans from Ireland. I suspect (although I do not have the supporting data) that RYR and EIN will have enjoyed healthy demand with good yield on the morning eastbounds and evening westbound flights that day. In fact, I suspect that they would be well satisfied generally with traffic between Dublin and Manchester last weekend, as Rugby Union fans were in the mix too. As an aside, additional charter flights operated from Ireland / Scotland for the United v City match. Operators were CityJet, Aer Arann, Eastern Airways and Loganair.
Taking the big picture, as opposed to an off-peak snapshot, DUB-MAN has proved a particularly successful route for Ryanair.
Regards. SHED.
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I'm not sure I agree with that. If they were really going to axe Girona, then why would they have announced a five year deal just eight weeks ago?
Ryanair Agrees 5 Year Extension of its Barcelona Girona Base
Not everyone flying to that part of the world is going to Barcelona. I''d have thought GRO could easily hold is own.
Ryanair Agrees 5 Year Extension of its Barcelona Girona Base
Not everyone flying to that part of the world is going to Barcelona. I''d have thought GRO could easily hold is own.
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Some destinations are likely to disappear from Ryanair route map. Most recently Granada city has refused to pay Ryanair the incentives to restart several routes cancelled in recent years. The future of last two existing connections seems very uncertain now.
The French city Pau said it was ending the subsidies to maintain flights there because Ryanair's demands were "intolerable" and amounted to blackmail. Ryanair had asked Pau to hike its subsidies to 1.5 million euros a year if it wants to maintain flights to Britain, Belgium and Paris. The chamber of commerce in Pau has informed Ryanair of its decision "not to pay another penny in fees," said the chamber official today.
Meanwhile, the former Yugoslavian Republic of Montenegro could be getting some low cost flights in an apparent shift in government policy. Last year, the Montenegrin Government claimed that too many incentives would have to be given. The government is now singing a different tune. It now says that it will commence negotiations with 3 low cost airlines, among them Ryanair. The flights would operate on a scheduled basis.
The French city Pau said it was ending the subsidies to maintain flights there because Ryanair's demands were "intolerable" and amounted to blackmail. Ryanair had asked Pau to hike its subsidies to 1.5 million euros a year if it wants to maintain flights to Britain, Belgium and Paris. The chamber of commerce in Pau has informed Ryanair of its decision "not to pay another penny in fees," said the chamber official today.
Meanwhile, the former Yugoslavian Republic of Montenegro could be getting some low cost flights in an apparent shift in government policy. Last year, the Montenegrin Government claimed that too many incentives would have to be given. The government is now singing a different tune. It now says that it will commence negotiations with 3 low cost airlines, among them Ryanair. The flights would operate on a scheduled basis.
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Good news for Derry, RYR have added double rotations to STN on mon & fri from April. FAO is 3x weekly during july & aug. ALC is back 2x weekly for july & aug. Things are looking good for LDY and it seems that MO'L is finally showing interest in Derry!
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I think it's getting more and more apparrent that Ryanair need different sized aircrafts. There's only so much expansion that can go on with the 737-800 in Europe. They need something like the new C-Series or E175/95 to fuel expansion in the Nordic Region, out of Irelands regional airports and flights both starting and terminating in Eastern Europe.
I won't hold my breath though.
I won't hold my breath though.
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I think it's getting more and more apparrent that Ryanair need different sized aircrafts. There's only so much expansion that can go on with the 737-800 in Europe.
They need something like the new C-Series or E175/95 to fuel expansion in the Nordic Region
Think different, for God's sake!
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Well I've flown to Tampere and Ryanair are operating quite a good range of destinations from there. But what I meant about the smaller aircrafts was that they were needed for inter-scandnavian flights, or between Finland and Estonia.
LDY had waited for ages to get a double daily flight to STN reinstated and only just got the double flights needed on Monday and Fridays from April. The likes of regional airports in Ireland such as LDY need a smaller aircraft to serve BRS, EDI or MAN.
LPN could definately avail of a smaller aircraft to give bargain flights to Gothenberg, Malmo, Stockholm, Tallinn, Oslo and Riga.
I remember one of my finnish friends saying finnish people only like to fly Finnair, but I remember when the days when irish people said they only liked to fly Aer Lingus. If RYR and EZY continue to make a credible attempt, finnish people will soon enjoy the cheap flights to lots of european destinations which other europeans have taken for granted over the past decade.
LDY had waited for ages to get a double daily flight to STN reinstated and only just got the double flights needed on Monday and Fridays from April. The likes of regional airports in Ireland such as LDY need a smaller aircraft to serve BRS, EDI or MAN.
LPN could definately avail of a smaller aircraft to give bargain flights to Gothenberg, Malmo, Stockholm, Tallinn, Oslo and Riga.
I remember one of my finnish friends saying finnish people only like to fly Finnair, but I remember when the days when irish people said they only liked to fly Aer Lingus. If RYR and EZY continue to make a credible attempt, finnish people will soon enjoy the cheap flights to lots of european destinations which other europeans have taken for granted over the past decade.
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incentives, subsidies, marketing support
In order to be fair and objective, while pondering the support for Ryanair one has to put some facts and numbers into context.
Today heraldo.es has published the data related to public support received by some airlines flying to the Aragon community in Northern Spain.
Well, the marketing support to Ryanair, that carried over 370,000 passengers in 2010, amounted to 3 million euros. Hence, for one traveller brought to the region by FR the local taxpayer had to pay 8.1 euros.
In comparison, Air Nostrum transported 58,784 pax and got almost 2.5 million euros, it equals to 41.8 €/pax.
The most expensive proved Pyrenair. Since 2007, the local government has spent 2.75 millions through agreements to promote tourism as the direct aid to Pyrenair, to carry some 19,000 passengers. It means, every traveler on a plane of Pyrenair has costed the Government of Aragon 144 euros on average.
It seems the support for Ryanair isn't so very expensive, after all.
Today heraldo.es has published the data related to public support received by some airlines flying to the Aragon community in Northern Spain.
Well, the marketing support to Ryanair, that carried over 370,000 passengers in 2010, amounted to 3 million euros. Hence, for one traveller brought to the region by FR the local taxpayer had to pay 8.1 euros.
In comparison, Air Nostrum transported 58,784 pax and got almost 2.5 million euros, it equals to 41.8 €/pax.
The most expensive proved Pyrenair. Since 2007, the local government has spent 2.75 millions through agreements to promote tourism as the direct aid to Pyrenair, to carry some 19,000 passengers. It means, every traveler on a plane of Pyrenair has costed the Government of Aragon 144 euros on average.
It seems the support for Ryanair isn't so very expensive, after all.
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Very interesting EU! I do wonder though, especially when comparing the Ryanair Passenger and the Air Norstrum passenger; what the average salary of each would be, and what do they both spend in the local economy. Air Norstrum might be worth the extra money! Pryennair is a total ripe off though!
Very interesting EU! I do wonder though, especially when comparing the Ryanair Passenger and the Air Norstrum passenger; what the average salary of each would be, and what do they both spend in the local economy. Air Norstrum might be worth the extra money!
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What are you trying to say ? I hope I have the wrong end of the stick .
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DAA Reject Ryanair Offer Of 4m Traffic Growth
If this man wasn't so good at running an airline, Satchi & Satchi would pay him big bucks to do what he does best.
If this man wasn't so good at running an airline, Satchi & Satchi would pay him big bucks to do what he does best.