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I was wondering how long Manchester was closed for today as I am hearing a lot of sorry tales on the news about other airports but
not one mention of MAN being closed/open.......weird!
Can any one enlighten me please ?
MM
not one mention of MAN being closed/open.......weird!
Can any one enlighten me please ?
MM
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Manchester wasnt closed at all today, and apart from flights cancelled at source airport, operated a full schedule, and was only closed for about 35 mins yesterday.
The guys at MAN have done a brilliant job this year, and I think it shows how well they have learnt from last year. Well done to all involved, you should be holding your heads high tonight!
Apart from the QR73 (which wasnt MAN's fault), there havent even been any stories of pax stuck on planes (not like the KLM MD11 fiasco of last year!)
Already on screens as a divert for tomorrow is the EY17 from FRA at 0910.
The guys at MAN have done a brilliant job this year, and I think it shows how well they have learnt from last year. Well done to all involved, you should be holding your heads high tonight!
Apart from the QR73 (which wasnt MAN's fault), there havent even been any stories of pax stuck on planes (not like the KLM MD11 fiasco of last year!)
Already on screens as a divert for tomorrow is the EY17 from FRA at 0910.
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Ive racked whats happened.
EY17 was diverted to FRA yesterday, and obviously LHR cant give them a slot, so maybe hes comming to MAN so they can bus pax to/from LHR.
EY F class pax to use the new lounge too!
EY17 was diverted to FRA yesterday, and obviously LHR cant give them a slot, so maybe hes comming to MAN so they can bus pax to/from LHR.
EY F class pax to use the new lounge too!
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snow/fog
No snow closure but Air Blue recently diverted to BHX due low vis.
-12 down here in Brum, so it could be in for a long stay going by some
of the turnarounds today. Mind with a high of -4/-5 on top of the snow
it has been quite a weekend.
Pete
-12 down here in Brum, so it could be in for a long stay going by some
of the turnarounds today. Mind with a high of -4/-5 on top of the snow
it has been quite a weekend.
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Manchester just released the following Notam.
A3772/10 - LIMITED DIVERSION CAPABILITIES AVBL, ALL REQUESTS THROUGH
NOMINATED
HANDLING AGENT. 20 DEC 12:23 2010 UNTIL 31 JAN 17:00 2011. CREATED: 20 DEC 12:25
2010
Did i miss something ??? How can they implement that until the end of January ??.
Well played Manchester.
A3772/10 - LIMITED DIVERSION CAPABILITIES AVBL, ALL REQUESTS THROUGH
NOMINATED
HANDLING AGENT. 20 DEC 12:23 2010 UNTIL 31 JAN 17:00 2011. CREATED: 20 DEC 12:25
2010
Did i miss something ??? How can they implement that until the end of January ??.
Well played Manchester.
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Its a precautionary measure.
Its handling agents who have the say regarding diverts anyway, as its up to them if they have the staff/equipment to handle it.
Its not a 'no diverts' notam, just one that limits them as most of northern Europe will be experiencing so degree of disruption, and there are only so many we will be able to take.
Its handling agents who have the say regarding diverts anyway, as its up to them if they have the staff/equipment to handle it.
Its not a 'no diverts' notam, just one that limits them as most of northern Europe will be experiencing so degree of disruption, and there are only so many we will be able to take.
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Looks like Etihad are turning MAN into their second Hub!!
Great work by the airport to stay operational and cope with the increased traffic. This can only look good to the rest of the airline world as the London airports struggle enormously, we cope with our own, and take others.
Great work by the airport to stay operational and cope with the increased traffic. This can only look good to the rest of the airline world as the London airports struggle enormously, we cope with our own, and take others.
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Next they will be turning away diverts holding over Manchester that are begging to come in with the next alternative being Toulouse !!!
Oh wait....
Oh wait....
Not only its own services, but MAN seems to be taking in the backlog of travellers, so they have that to contend with.
A extra EK A380 landed yesterday afternoon, then there were 2 Etihad flights today, and extra Singapore B777, theres an extra Qatar flight (QR2045) comming in tomorrow, there are 2 extra Delta B767-400's here at the moment so considering all this, MAN is doing well. Where the hell are you expecting all these diverts to park?
Seems like no matter how well MAN do, theres always someone waititng in the wings to say it isnt good enough
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Where the hell are you expecting all these diverts to park?
Seems like no matter how well MAN do, theres always someone waititng in the wings to say it isnt good enough
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Seems like no matter how well MAN do, theres always someone waititng in the wings to say it isnt good enough
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Kudos for Emirates in sending the EK003 to MAN yesterday, at least some of the business ended up in the right country!
Great work by the airport to stay operational and cope with the increased traffic. This can only look good to the rest of the airline world as the London airports struggle enormously, we cope with our own, and take others.
The whole UK no longer has the strategic infrastructure to deal with less than a foot of snow in the week of the shortest day of the year. No one comes out of this looking particularly brilliant believe me. We have NO idea what to do. The plan at MAN last time and LHR this time, was basically to wait for the snow to melt. Really. That's how rubbish we are.
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Swearing and head banging can't be helping surely, calm down dear!
The head banging is because, MAN closed for about 35 minutes for the last 3 days, handled all the extra traffic, still handling extra traffic yet there are some on here who still think MAN could have done more. Id love to see how theyd cope running an airport!
The whole UK no longer has the strategic infrastructure to deal with less than a foot of snow in the week of the shortest day of the year. No one comes out of this looking particularly brilliant believe me. We have NO idea what to do. The plan at MAN last time and LHR this time, was basically to wait for the snow to melt. Really. That's how rubbish we are.
Like I say, how long has MAN been closed these past few days, 35 mins? Yes we havent had the same amount of snow as you, but when you consider the problems faces with temps ranging from 0 to -15, thats pretty brilliant in my books.
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MAN may not have had as much snow as Heathrow or Gatwick but has coped with the significant extra traffic well.
LPL however has had just as much if not more and yet aside from late Friday night and first thing Saturday morning has had minimal disruption, I appreciate less volume however they still have the same basics to deal with, clearing stands, r/w and taxiways and have done it. There has been no snowfall for over 48 hours yet the London airports seem to have a "can't be bothered" attitude towards keeping things running.
LPL however has had just as much if not more and yet aside from late Friday night and first thing Saturday morning has had minimal disruption, I appreciate less volume however they still have the same basics to deal with, clearing stands, r/w and taxiways and have done it. There has been no snowfall for over 48 hours yet the London airports seem to have a "can't be bothered" attitude towards keeping things running.
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A extra EK A380 landed yesterday afternoon, then there were 2 Etihad flights today, and extra Singapore B777, theres an extra Qatar flight (QR2045) comming in tomorrow, there are 2 extra Delta B767-400's here at the moment so considering all this, MAN is doing well. Where the hell are you expecting all these diverts to park?
Im talking about the 767 on Saturday night that held over Manchester pleading to come our way, the airport refused, and before you start with this "handling agent decides" business....the handling agent was willing to take it, it was the airport that stuck to the only emergencies, considering we had a light/very light dusting on Saturday morning the aiport didnt have sufficient stands free until the following day a 1500 hrs i think all this "we handled everything well" is utter $hite.
I know wehave to manage our own services but when the powers that be declared a "situation critical" and aircraft were diverting to such places as Groningen in Holland, Larnaca, Athens, Madrid to name a few then you have to wonder could Manchester have done more, the simple answer is yes...if that isnt the case then why has Manchester been inundated with calls from airline big wigs stating their anger at Manchester slapping on this emergency diverts only crap everytime Heathrow shuts...ahh thats not so public domain is it, well let me tell you its happening and its happening now, get somoen on here from Etihad and get them to explain how much "Pushing" they had to do.
The people that come on here stating that the "knockers" should try running the airport should try having a listen behind the scenes at how pi$$ed of airlines are at Manchesters ability to slap "emergeny only" notams at every given opportunity.
And before anyone asks, yes the new Notam is aimed at conserving low levels of de-icing fluid as stocks dwindle.
Im talking about the 767 on Saturday night that held over Manchester pleading to come our way, the airport refused, and before you start with this "handling agent decides" business....the handling agent was willing to take it, it was the airport that stuck to the only emergencies, considering we had a light/very light dusting on Saturday morning the aiport didnt have sufficient stands free until the following day a 1500 hrs i think all this "we handled everything well" is utter $hite.
I know wehave to manage our own services but when the powers that be declared a "situation critical" and aircraft were diverting to such places as Groningen in Holland, Larnaca, Athens, Madrid to name a few then you have to wonder could Manchester have done more, the simple answer is yes...if that isnt the case then why has Manchester been inundated with calls from airline big wigs stating their anger at Manchester slapping on this emergency diverts only crap everytime Heathrow shuts...ahh thats not so public domain is it, well let me tell you its happening and its happening now, get somoen on here from Etihad and get them to explain how much "Pushing" they had to do.
The people that come on here stating that the "knockers" should try running the airport should try having a listen behind the scenes at how pi$$ed of airlines are at Manchesters ability to slap "emergeny only" notams at every given opportunity.
And before anyone asks, yes the new Notam is aimed at conserving low levels of de-icing fluid as stocks dwindle.
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It seemed that at the start of all this snow, LHR had learnt too and were coping well. I mean, when LGW closed for 2 days, it even handled most of their long hauls. Its been a fair while since LHR has managed to do that.
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I know wehave to manage our own services but when the powers that be declared a "situation critical" and aircraft were diverting to such places as Groningen in Holland, Larnaca, Athens, Madrid to name a few then you have to wonder could Manchester have done more, the simple answer is yes
why has Manchester been inundated with calls from airline big wigs stating their anger at Manchester
Emirates were more than happy with MAN, hence they brought the UAE3 here.
Yes, very unhappy with MAN.....
And before anyone asks, yes the new Notam is aimed at conserving low levels of de-icing fluid as stocks dwindle
I think your talking rubbish to be honest, maybe your anger at not seeing some diverts with no idea how the airports actually run.
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ManofMan.
You are bang on the money..! Absolutely well said.
Its run by bean counters and where HSE rule these days.
There is no resolve,spirit,bottle,common sense,initiative whatever you want to call it to help passengers and flights not ending up in Barcelona! Or Shannon as a friend of mine has been stuck there since Saturday and mayt or may not be leaving there tonight...I could go and on and on..but wont.
You are bang on the money..! Absolutely well said.
Its run by bean counters and where HSE rule these days.
There is no resolve,spirit,bottle,common sense,initiative whatever you want to call it to help passengers and flights not ending up in Barcelona! Or Shannon as a friend of mine has been stuck there since Saturday and mayt or may not be leaving there tonight...I could go and on and on..but wont.