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Old 21st Dec 2010, 22:28
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Would seem by the replies thatnthe hardest of pro manchester
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Old 21st Dec 2010, 23:22
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Would seem by the replies thatnthe hardest of pro manchester
To be fair, they haven't had the same amount of snow as London but the facts suggest they're keeping some of the long haul carriers moving...
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 13:52
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Seen on another forum that Etihad are upping to 10 weekly from August 2011.

Double daily on Mon, Tue and Wed

On checking, the Manchester Airport online timetable seems to confirm this
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 14:12
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Will it be 77W and A332/3? Or downgrading to double A330?
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 16:13
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From the other forum:- M T W F Sat A340
M T W T Sun A330 Changing to 77W Oct 21
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Old 22nd Dec 2010, 17:58
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Guessing the new 3-class 77Ws due in 2011 will be heading to MAN as well as others?
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 20:37
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Manchester again turning away diversions tonight, Dublin is snoclo but Man is saying no.....

I'm presuming it's incase we have snow in February. ???
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 21:02
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The snow wasn't due to fall in Dublin this evening it was due to be fiurther south.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 21:57
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The no diversion NOTAM appears to have been dropped.
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Old 23rd Dec 2010, 23:59
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ManofMan you really are an ****
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 00:27
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Devil

ManofMan you really are an ****

Star ??, Dude??, Icon ??.....I give up ?

Realist is too many letters, but rather than just fling insults, why don't you fill me in on why the supposed second airport in the country cannot handle 2x diverts ??? That's not counting by the way the numerous diverts it has rejected in the last few days.

The place is run by muppets who are more concerned about how much they can save by turning escalators off over developing the airport.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 08:14
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BBC - New equipment helps clear Manchester Airport runways

To be fair to Manchester - they haven't half come out of this with a big thumbs up from many an operator, some not even serving the airport.

The reasons are as in the video above. They learn and move on. Surely "muppets" don't do that? Unless they're very well educated "muppets."

I do love it how people who aren't in such high powered and entrusted jobs are able to criticise others by calling them names. Doesn't that surely sum it up? If I was an MAG director and someone called me a muppet on a forum I'd be quite amused. There is a reason one is sat in a big office and another is sat on a computer calling people names.

We aren't 5 years old any more - there is no need for it.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 08:41
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Pot..... kettle

M o M ...

but rather than just fling insults
and in the same post....

The place is run by muppets
I need say no more.

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Old 24th Dec 2010, 08:46
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The muppets appear to have a plan to ensure they can service their exisiting clients rather than accept all diversions and then say to their bread and butter customers 'oops sorry you can't operate your scheduled service because we have not got enough de-icer'. Seems quite sensible to put long term planning over short term gain.

The muppets, as evidenced by the TV coverage, have learnt and spent money on equipment and have a plan. (Admittedly helped by the fact they haven't had as much snow as other airports too).

The muppets also seem to have attracted a fair amount of new and increased business like Tunisair; Extra Virgin flights; AA year round to JFK; TAP to Lisbon, increases by bmi baby, easyjet, jet2; KLM addition rotation, Etihad up to 10 flights a week. Plus possible 3rd flight by EK; Etihad Crystal Cargo; Austrian; LH Italia; additional taiwan Cargo flights.

As an aside to the diversion debate, or should I say as a diversion to it. The good old MEN is reporting that the government is considering reducing APD from regional airports and increasing them at LGW/LHR

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Old 24th Dec 2010, 10:44
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The crucial point is one of corporate memory. When the people who were good on the operations were on occasion phased out in favour of people who were good at driving retail sales from Terminal space, the ability to react to any cold snap went with them. Simply put, such skills get forgotten, neglected and fall down the list of priorities.

The major airports all made a complete **** up since 2008 when snow falls, Manchester and Gatwick now get the praise over Heathrow. However the order in which they got caught with their pants down is Manchester, Gatwick, Heathrow, the same order in which the heavy snow affected their fields.

The good news is MAN and LGW are further along the learning curve than LHR. The question is, will they forget it again as the years pass and the winters get milder? Incidentally, the muppets rock.
"It's time to play the music, It's time to light the lights...." Enough I think.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 11:37
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Let's see if MAN has learnt how to clear snow this weekend as the approaching front hits this cold air mass probably sometime Sunday !
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 12:10
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Sunday night forecast could see a major dump of snow or just heavy sleet & rain, fingers crossed for all travellers, crews and airport staff.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 12:57
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To be fair to Manchester - they haven't half come out of this with a big thumbs up from many an operator, some not even serving the airport.

I don't understand, come out of what well??? We had about half an inch of snow during this period, to compare to what LHR and LGW had is an insult, they had 20 cms of the white stuff. The beeb and most of the pro Manchester brigade are all jumping up and down saying how well Manchester has coped as opposed to the others, but we didn't have anything like what they had.

If you want to sit there and honestly defend the diversion notams that we issue with such ease then so be it.

I personally think they are a joke, each to their own.
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 14:43
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Snow - Sunday ?

...The threat of snow looks to have receeded faster than Ant and Decs hairline !

BBC are suggesting rain and sleet only, seems incredible given the cold air mass sat over us !
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Old 24th Dec 2010, 14:50
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There appears to be more and more 'spotter' led
debate (?) on here - do they not have their own thread?

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