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Old 18th Nov 2010, 22:43
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Given excess runway capacity and seemingly not enough terminal space for expansion one wonders whether any consideration has been given to a T4 on the eastern side of both runways where plenty of space exists if not, at present such good transport links. I'm sure I read something about this years ago when I lived in the area.
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Would make for a fantastic low cost terminal.

I'm sure LS, U2 and WW would love to land, exit the runway and have no problems getting straight onto stand and then vice versa.

I did think it would fit perfectly where the Viewing Park is - but your idea is better!
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 12:05
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seemingly not enough terminal space for expansion one
Hang on, T2 stands empty for hours at a time. They're not sweating the assets they've got properly.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 13:31
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I don't think MAN will, or even need to build a low cost terminal. The airport does well IMO, in keeping the low cost airlines it has happy with existing facilities.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 15:49
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there are 2 subways from T2 to the remote stands, they were put there when T2 was built so the airport could have a cheap buget terminal built in know time. Back in 2001 Easy jet came to Manchester and said they werent over happy at liverpool and wanted to put about 30 flights a day out of MAN, but they had just sponsered the terminal building at LPL. Although they put more routes out of LPL, they still have there sights on MAN for big expansion... I only know this because i was there at the meeting, so its just a matter of time, cos you cant put loads of flights out of an airport if you dont have the planes. What helped was buying GB Airways....
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Mytravel, I,ve never read such a aload of ****e in all my life.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 19:09
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well dont read it mouser, all i will say is, i was in that meeting and i know what was said.... were you there?? if not, becareful you dont call me a liar.....
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 19:21
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Isn't the Styal side of the airport all green belt? Agree with MUFC fan, area around the AVP (between A538 and the airport) would be better - easy to link to the A538 and on to the M56
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 19:23
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Mytravel, I had already read it, but don't worry I'll be careful.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 08:05
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Operations were suspended earlier this morning due to a fire on stand 49. The fire originated from a tug which had just positioned an aircraft on stand. Well done to the tug crew who, after noticing smoke, disconnected from the aircraft and moved the tug clear where it then burst into flames. The airport fire crew were there in seconds with the blaze under control. No one hurt, and probably quite a sight from the terminal building.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 09:49
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Turin I don't believe BA expanded MAN whilst plotting a pull out simultaneously were they? Thats the point I was getting at.
My tongue was firmly in cheek.

And the Af/KL/BE rumour? Do you mean taking over Regional, Brit Air and CityHopper?
No, all I heard was that after AF moved to T3 FlyBe took over some of their daily flights as AF have reduced theirs. The ultimate aim is for Flybe to operate all the current AF routes into UK regional airports (under I assume a codeshare agreement). The logical conclusion would be that Flybe would eventually take over the same with regard to KLM.

It's just rumour and speculation from a bunch of airport workers but, who knows, there maybe some truth in it. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 09:59
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And now for some thing completely different

Might provoke a bit of a debate??

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Campaign to promote airport backfires after blogger compares Manchester to Paris Hilton - Manchester Evening News
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 10:04
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That's a bit harsh..........on Paris Hilton.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 10:23
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there are 2 subways from T2 to the remote stands, they were put there when T2 was built so the airport could have a cheap buget terminal built in know time
Absolute Rubbish

There was an idea to put ONE subway from the T2 building to the grass area opposite between the two aprons when T2 was being built. This was to serve a satellite pier (rather like ATL) which would be built at a later stage. And as this was in the late 1980s when T2 was being planned, low cost airlines in Europe hadn't been invented. Constructing the tunnel as T2 was being built would mean that the apron would not have to be dug up later when the Satellite Pier was built.

As I remember the cost was over £10 million and it was eventually decided not to invest this money on a facility that wouldn't be used for several years at least, if at all. With hindsight, the right decision!

As far as Lo-cost Terminals (aka Gil's shoe box) are concerned, there were ideas to construct one in the area of Staff West Car Park or on the SE corner of the airfield around Moss Lane. There are 2 problems at this latter location - it is in green belt and would also be in the Public Safety Zone for the second runway. And the business case never stacked up

Given excess runway capacity and seemingly not enough terminal space for expansion
Didn't the existing Terminals once handle 22million instead of the 17 million today? Don't tell me that the refurbishment of all the terminals has lead to this massive reduction in capacity. I don't think so because when growth restarts they would have to build again. Not a very sound business case...

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 11:21
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if i remember right, the birth of low cost airlines started in the late 70`s with Sir Freddie Lakers SkyTrain....
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 12:19
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I suppose you could say that but it was long haul so a very different kettle of fish
The begining of lo-cost was Southwest Airlines in USA which started many years before it did over here

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 12:40
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But Freddie did offer cheap flights to some european destinations on his BAC1-11`s. Just a shame he ordered 10 A300`S and not 5. But then BA didnt help with their dirty tricks, as they say, of all the airlines that took on Freddie Laker, they have either gone bust or taken over by BA( crap air)
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 18:50
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bmi baby to serve Berlin 5 times a week from March 27th 2011, evening flights
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 19:01
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The 1-11`s did IT work not scheduled from memory
Remember having the pleasure of Manchester to Rhodes via Zagreb


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Old 20th Nov 2010, 19:10
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Correct, Mr Brooks.

I flew to Palma on one of Freddie's 1-11 300s on an IT around 1966/7.

It was well before Skytrain and before any wide bodies were acquired.
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