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Old 6th Jul 2010, 13:58
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The Irish Government is planning an asset sale to help with the ongoing deficit. Most semi-state companies are basket cases that no buyer would touch. There are a few exceptions - ESB, Bord Gáis - but not all that many.

Seeing that the Aer Lingus shareholding is one that has a tangible value, it would probably be among the early assets to be sold.

I would imagine they would prefer a trade buyer than trying to float all those shares at the moment.
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Old 6th Jul 2010, 14:04
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That could be very risky for share price no? If they couldnt kind a buyer for their share in EI (which is likely with Ryanair owning 30%), if they dumped a load of share for sale surely the price would go way down?
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 13:23
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Crew Called To Meeting At Bournemouth

ALL BOURNEMOUTH BASED CREW CALLED TO A MEETING WITH THE AIRLINE DIRECTORS IN THE BOURNEMOUTH CREW ROOM TOMORROW.

This cannot be good news. Total withdrawal? Reduction in aircraft base from 2 to 1? It certainly cant be good news if the Director of Personnel is present.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 13:53
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maybe the aircraft in bournemouth are going to leeds?
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 20:50
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Agp base to closed for the winter,
All crew offerd unpaid leave for 4 months or move to our new base BCN.

I feel another round of base cut's are on the way. (
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The Malaga base just opened a few weeks ago and now they are planning to close it? What was the point of opening it in the first place?
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 08:14
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Agp base to closed for the winter,
All crew offerd unpaid leave for 4 months or move to our new base BCN.
You sure?? That makes no sense at all. They've been going on and on about how it's so expensive to operate out of the UK and Ireland over the winter and that the aeroplanes will be placed elsewhere where we make money and operating costs are low. Spain for example. As a year round destination Malaga would seem to exceed all their requirements and wishes.
Perhaps the biggest pri*k ever to walk the face of the earth (MOL) has fallen out with them already. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 08:28
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Perhaps the biggest pri*k ever to walk the face of the earth (MOL) has fallen out with them already.
*cough* Steady, he does have enough money to be able to afford lawyers you know.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 08:56
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*cough* Steady, he does have enough money to be able to afford lawyers you know.
Hmm, are you sure that Cloud Bunny wasn't actually quoting the words of the great man himself?
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 09:41
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Yes you're right that almost sounds like a compliment!! I amend it to smallest pri*k!!
Honestly, I'm sick of this guy now wish he would just do one.
Anyhow, any news on AGP and BOH? Have friends in both and just wondering whats happening. Would be particularly surprised if anything untoward is occuring in AGP.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 09:51
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AGP just reduced A/C as its a summer focus base, therefore some crew offfered unpaid leave (as in most FR bases). I think the same will happen BOH down to 1. As in most UK bases just a reduction as theres no point flying half empty A/C around europe. All airlines do this so its nothing exceptional. FR just want to highlight it this time around to say to the UK and Irish Governments rethink your tourist taxes.
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Dublin Winter Cuts

Dublin fleet to be reduced to 12 for winter, with the loss of 150 flights a week.

RTÉ News: Decrease in Ryanair's Dublin winter flights

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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:55
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Offered unpaid leave, really!!! offered makes it sound like they have a choice?

For the contractor's you can stay where you like, but no flying means no money

Its been said elsewhere but they have more aircraft than they can profitably fly apart from a few months of the year, so it makes sense to park them and opening new bases allows them to do just that very cheaply.

As for the headline's Ryanair creates 1000 new jobs because they have moved an aircraft to Leeds perhaps if the headline was Ryanair cuts a 1000 jobs might be more apt, thankfully because they never create that many jobs they cant loose that many either!
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Well, the boys at the top have now surely stooped to an all time low in the appalling way staff are treated in this god foresaken company. Have several mates who have done more 'favours' than you thought possible (flying on off days, etc etc) in order to help their cause for a Malaga base then as soon as it opens it closes and they're "offered" unpaid leave.
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting. I can understand the commercial and business reasons for needing to reduce capacity and maximise profit over the winter but to keep this little nugget to themselves while people are falling over themselves to get down there frankly stinks.
Everyone of them should hang their heads in shame - but they wont they couldn't give a ****e. God I'm desperate to get out of here.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 15:08
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Could be worse, you could be at ARIK!
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 15:15
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You do come over as being 'desperate' - do you not know
where the door is?

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You do come over as being 'desperate' - do you not know
where the door is?
I most certainly do sir and I'm working hard trying to prize it open and leg it through. Problem is there aren't many options to leg it to at the mo although I favour a move abroad.
The company know this and therefore for the time being are getting away with it. It will however come back to bite them in the bum when things get moving as they most certainly will and they lose a hell of a lot of good guys. I fear though they wont see it that way. Or are just so monumentaly arrogant (as appears the case) they wont care.
Perhaps desperate is a bit strong a word - it's more a case of being so disillusioned with the companies behaviour and so disappointed. This could so easily be such a brilliant job, but it's getting worse and worse by the day. It's for that reason and many others unrelated to FR that I'm working towards getting out at the earliest opportunity.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 15:37
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Have several mates who have done more 'favours' than you thought possible (flying on off days, etc etc) in order to help their cause for a Malaga base
Could it not have been more of a case of your mates volunteering to move to a 'sunshine' base and it has backfired on them, as opposed to them doing the company a favour.
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 15:44
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Well, the boys at the top have now surely stooped to an all time low in the appalling way staff are treated in this god foresaken company. Have several mates who have done more 'favours' than you thought possible (flying on off days, etc etc) in order to help their cause for a Malaga base then as soon as it opens it closes and they're "offered" unpaid leave.
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting......God I'm desperate to get out of here
Cloud Bunny before this descends into further bashing, has anyone got any facts and/or proof that AGP is closing for the winter. If not, keep your wild rumours to yourself.

Previous information already indicates that Malaga is a 4 a/c base with one extra a/c for the summer period, which is why there are numerous floating pilots who are 'based' in AGP for around 3 months or so. If unpaid leave or BCN has been offered to excess cabin crew, this seems better than having them sit around doing 5 standbys a week don't you think?

Congratulations if you or your friends have done the company a favour. Your not the only ones. Don't forget that working an off day gets you either a working day off payment and/or extra sector pay and it isn't compulsory to work it.

mickyman has some great advice for you, take it.

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Old 8th Jul 2010, 17:11
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Right okay then lets nip this in the bud before it gets personal.
First off I'm not a "basher", trawl through my posts, you'll see I'm one of the more 'sympathetic' posters on here with regards to FR and a strong supporter of the standards of operation that we have here. Like I said, there are many things here which could contribute to it being one of the best jobs you could get in the industry at the moment. However there are elements that are driving guys, including me, to look elsewhere. I'm not going to bore you with it, it's just fact.
If this AGP thing is proved to be the case (and RYR738 if you'd bothered to read this thing properly you'd see it's not my "wild rumour" I am merely commenting on it) then I think it's a pretty poor bit of staff relations to move guys out to a new base and then immediately reduce it/close it for the winter (delete as appropriate). Unpaid leave, relocations whatever - it's just poor practice.
I myself have not had to do the company any "favours" as I am not relocating and have absolutely nothing to do with AGP as a base but I know guys who have gone well above the call of duty with that little nugget dangled in front of them. Maybe I shouldn't give a toss, I'm not affected but I'm sorry I thought we are all in this together and it's nice to show a bit of solidarity and support every now and then. Maybe not.
I shall now keep my opinions to myself and wish everyone a good day.
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